From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Mon Sep 3 04:31:57 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Hadley Rich) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 15:31:57 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] [semi-OT] LCD TVs with DPMS Message-ID: <200709031531.57797.hads@nice.net.nz> Hey list, We're looking to buy a new LCD TV for our joint and I'd prefer one that supports DPMS. We've got a little Panasonic Viera LCD in another room which doesn't do DPMS and it annoys me. It seems DPMS is more common in plasma TVs than LCD. We're looking at 40-42" panels and I've currently been leaning towards the Toshiba and Sharp models but am welcome to input from others if it's not too OT. It will of course be running a MythTV frontend :) Unfortunately DPMS isn't usually listed as a spec on any of the web pages or brochures and none of the sales people I've encountered know what it is. Does anyone have any clues as what brands/models tend to support DPMS or not? Short of taking my laptop in to the shop and doing a `xset dpms force off` to test each set out (which I will do if it comes down to it). Cheers, hads -- http://nicegear.co.nz New Zealand's VoIP supplier From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Mon Sep 3 13:00:11 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Nick & Ann Read) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 00:00:11 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] Change in daylight savings Message-ID: <46DBF74B.9090309@engineer.com> So we need to make sure our systems know about the new daylight savings regime later this month, right?

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/barf/3483

'apt-get install tzdata' did it for me (KnoppMyth 5E50 / Debian) :-)
From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Mon Sep 3 21:25:52 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Steven Ellis) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 08:25:52 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] Change in daylight savings In-Reply-To: <46DBF74B.9090309@engineer.com> References: <46DBF74B.9090309@engineer.com> Message-ID: <46DC6DD0.8020901@openmedia.co.nz> Nick & Ann Read wrote: > So we need to make sure our systems know about the new daylight > savings regime later this month, right? > > http://www.geekzone.co.nz/barf/3483 > > 'apt-get install tzdata' did it for me (KnoppMyth 5E50 / Debian) :-) > I've just released a patch for all of my customers to sort it out. Just hope there are no EPG issues this time round. Last time freeview's EIT data was off by an hour for a couple of days. Steve -- Steven Ellis - Technical Director OpenMedia Limited email - steven@openmedia.co.nz sales - sales@openmedia.co.nz support - support@openmedia.co.nz website - http://www.openmedia.co.nz From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Mon Sep 3 22:53:33 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Barry Clearwater) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 09:53:33 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] help on myth weather In-Reply-To: <46D880A8.7020209@openmedia.co.nz> References: <46D3E934.80401@engineer.com> <46D87BF4.8010809@xtra.co.nz> <46D880A8.7020209@openmedia.co.nz> Message-ID: <1188856413.3187.111.camel@mordecai2.bcsystems.co.nz.> Ive been looking at weather applets under Ubuntu Feisty and gdesklets, they all seem to gather weather info from either Yahoo or weather.com. Each of these sites have nz weather available but the plugins don't seem to access them correctly. It seems the foibles are hard coded in, so its possible the same issues lies within Mythtv. It needs some concerted coding effort by kiwi's to work out this functionality. Anyone know where it is within the code base? Barry On Sat, 2007-09-01 at 08:57 +1200, Steven Ellis wrote: > stuart wrote: > > Is this still not working? or is there a work around all. I can get is > > the NZ overview map but the actual forecast temps, are way wrong. > > Any help would be great > > Stu > > > It is still seriously broken. In fact its currently so bad that the > default MythTV 0.20.2 build disables it. > > Steve > 18 Shaw Street Mosgiel mailto:barryc@bcsystems.co.nz ph 03 4893915 mob 027 2219338 From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Mon Sep 3 23:00:14 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Hadley Rich) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 10:00:14 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] help on myth weather In-Reply-To: <1188856413.3187.111.camel@mordecai2.bcsystems.co.nz.> References: <46D3E934.80401@engineer.com> <46D880A8.7020209@openmedia.co.nz> <1188856413.3187.111.camel@mordecai2.bcsystems.co.nz.> Message-ID: <200709041000.15053.hads@nice.net.nz> On Tuesday 04 September 2007 09:53:33 Barry Clearwater wrote: > Ive been looking at weather applets under Ubuntu Feisty and gdesklets, > they all seem to gather weather info from either Yahoo or weather.com. > Each of these sites have nz weather available but the plugins don't seem > to access them correctly. It seems the foibles are hard coded in, so > its possible the same issues lies within Mythtv. > It needs some concerted coding effort by kiwi's to work out this > functionality. > Anyone know where it is within the code base? http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/mythplugins/mythweather Be aware that mythweather has changed significantly in trunk from the version in 0.20. hads -- http://nicegear.co.nz New Zealand's VoIP supplier From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 4 00:16:54 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Steven Ellis) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 11:16:54 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [mythtvnz] help on myth weather In-Reply-To: <200709041000.15053.hads@nice.net.nz> References: <46D3E934.80401@engineer.com> <46D880A8.7020209@openmedia.co.nz> <1188856413.3187.111.camel@mordecai2.bcsystems.co.nz.> <200709041000.15053.hads@nice.net.nz> Message-ID: <33132.192.168.0.254.1188861414.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinux.net> On Tue, September 4, 2007 10:00 am, Hadley Rich wrote: > On Tuesday 04 September 2007 09:53:33 Barry Clearwater wrote: >> Ive been looking at weather applets under Ubuntu Feisty and gdesklets, >> they all seem to gather weather info from either Yahoo or weather.com. >> Each of these sites have nz weather available but the plugins don't se= em >> to access them correctly. It seems the foibles are hard coded in, so >> its possible the same issues lies within Mythtv. >> It needs some concerted coding effort by kiwi's to work out this >> functionality. >> Anyone know where it is within the code base? > > http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/mythplugins/mythweather > > Be aware that mythweather has changed significantly in trunk from the > version > in 0.20. The big merge of mythweather-revamp happened at http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/13867/trunk/mythplugins/mythweather This is a huge change and I don't expect to see it appear in 0.20-fixes unless someone here is brave enough to attempt it. Hads - You are usually running of SVN trunk, whats the new weather plugin like? -------------------------------------------- Steven Ellis - Technical Director OpenMedia Limited - The Home of myPVR email - steven@openmedia.co.nz sales - sales@openmedia.co.nz support - support@openmedia.co.nz website - http://www.openmedia.co.nz From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 4 00:23:28 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Hadley Rich) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 11:23:28 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] help on myth weather In-Reply-To: <33132.192.168.0.254.1188861414.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinux.net> References: <46D3E934.80401@engineer.com> <200709041000.15053.hads@nice.net.nz> <33132.192.168.0.254.1188861414.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinux.net> Message-ID: <200709041123.28760.hads@nice.net.nz> On Tuesday 04 September 2007 11:16:54 Steven Ellis wrote: > This is a huge change and I don't expect to see it appear in 0.20-fixes > unless someone here is brave enough to attempt it. I don't think it would be accepted for inclusion even if someone did attempt it. > Hads - You are usually running of SVN trunk, whats the new weather plugin > like? To be honest I don't even build it so I couldn't tell you sorry. It's just not something that interests me that much. hads -- http://nicegear.co.nz New Zealand's VoIP supplier From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 4 00:28:06 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Hadley Rich) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 11:28:06 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] tv_grab_nz-py and MythTV 0.20.2 Message-ID: <200709041128.06155.hads@nice.net.nz> Hey all, Speaking of backporting things in another thread reminded me that one of the MythTV devs backported some major mythfilldatabase changes to 0.20-fixes just before the 0.20.2 release. This will allow tv_grab_nz-py to work just like any of the other official grabbers if you have it in your PATH. You will be able to set it up through mythv-setup and get myth to run mythfilldatabase for you automatically etc. hads -- http://nicegear.co.nz New Zealand's VoIP supplier From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 4 00:34:06 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Nick Rout) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 11:34:06 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [mythtvnz] help on myth weather In-Reply-To: <200709041123.28760.hads@nice.net.nz> References: <46D3E934.80401@engineer.com> <200709041000.15053.hads@nice.net.nz> <33132.192.168.0.254.1188861414.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinux.net> <200709041123.28760.hads@nice.net.nz> Message-ID: <15456.219.89.81.142.1188862446.squirrel@rout.dyndns.org> On Tue, September 4, 2007 11:23 am, Hadley Rich wrote: > On Tuesday 04 September 2007 11:16:54 Steven Ellis wrote: >> This is a huge change and I don't expect to see it appear in 0.20-fixe= s >> unless someone here is brave enough to attempt it. > > I don't think it would be accepted for inclusion even if someone did > attempt > it. > >> Hads - You are usually running of SVN trunk, whats the new weather >> plugin >> like? > > To be honest I don't even build it so I couldn't tell you sorry. It's j= ust > not > something that interests me that much. > > hads I usually find that turning away from the TV and looking out the window i= s a suitable substitute :-) --=20 Nick Rout From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 4 01:57:13 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Robin Gilks) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 12:57:13 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [mythtvnz] help on myth weather In-Reply-To: <33132.192.168.0.254.1188861414.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinu x.net> References: <46D3E934.80401@engineer.com> <46D880A8.7020209@openmedia.co.nz> <1188856413.3187.111.camel@mordecai2.bcsystems.co.nz.> <200709041000.15053.hads@nice.net.nz> <33132.192.168.0.254.1188861414.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinux.net> Message-ID: <58224.202.37.96.11.1188867433.squirrel@gilks.ath.cx> > > On Tue, September 4, 2007 10:00 am, Hadley Rich wrote: >> On Tuesday 04 September 2007 09:53:33 Barry Clearwater wrote: >>> Ive been looking at weather applets under Ubuntu Feisty and gdesklets, >>> they all seem to gather weather info from either Yahoo or weather.com. >>> Each of these sites have nz weather available but the plugins don't >>> seem >>> to access them correctly. It seems the foibles are hard coded in, so >>> its possible the same issues lies within Mythtv. >>> It needs some concerted coding effort by kiwi's to work out this >>> functionality. >>> Anyone know where it is within the code base? >> >> http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/mythplugins/mythweather >> >> Be aware that mythweather has changed significantly in trunk from the >> version >> in 0.20. > > The big merge of mythweather-revamp happened at > http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/13867/trunk/mythplugins/mythweather > > This is a huge change and I don't expect to see it appear in 0.20-fixes > unless someone here is brave enough to attempt it. > > Hads - You are usually running of SVN trunk, whats the new weather plugin > like? > I'm running SVN and it works great for me using the unofficial weather.com script from Simon Flood that is on the weather-revamp ticket #3337. A couple of recent 'fixes' have added two 'degree' signs when using celcius scale, otherwise its getting cleaned up quite nicely! StuartM is putting together a BBC scraper script that will include NZ and presumably not have the licensing issues the weather.com one has (although I fail to see what the problem is since an individual user downloading the data is not re-publishing it!!). Check for progress under ticket #3722 -- Robin Gilks From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 4 01:49:59 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Robin Gilks) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 12:49:59 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [mythtvnz] tv_grab_nz-py and MythTV 0.20.2 In-Reply-To: <200709041128.06155.hads@nice.net.nz> References: <200709041128.06155.hads@nice.net.nz> Message-ID: <46924.202.37.96.11.1188866999.squirrel@gilks.ath.cx> > Hey all, > > Speaking of backporting things in another thread reminded me that one of > the > MythTV devs backported some major mythfilldatabase changes to 0.20-fixes > just > before the 0.20.2 release. > > This will allow tv_grab_nz-py to work just like any of the other official > grabbers if you have it in your PATH. > > You will be able to set it up through mythv-setup and get myth to run > mythfilldatabase for you automatically etc. > > hads > Is there a howto somewhere that would wean me off the raw channel IDs and make use of the new script? What I'd like to do is: * mysql script to change the channel ID based xmltvid's to named ones * grab the epg using my skystar2 card * import it using either mythfilldatabase directly or tv_grab_nz-py (whatever the difference is) * some clues on how to filter out the Sports Extra epg from freeview and import just that one channel Cheers -- Robin Gilks From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 4 05:52:45 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Hadley Rich) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 16:52:45 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] tv_grab_nz-py and MythTV 0.20.2 In-Reply-To: <46924.202.37.96.11.1188866999.squirrel@gilks.ath.cx> References: <200709041128.06155.hads@nice.net.nz> <46924.202.37.96.11.1188866999.squirrel@gilks.ath.cx> Message-ID: <200709041652.46048.hads@nice.net.nz> On Tuesday 04 September 2007 12:49:59 Robin Gilks wrote: > Is there a howto somewhere that would wean me off the raw channel IDs and > make use of the new script? Unfortunately not. > What I'd like to do is: > > * mysql script to change the channel ID based xmltvid's to named ones http://epg.pvr.geek.nz/epg/update-xmltvids.py would be a good starting point. ou'll need the channels.conf from there too from memory. > * grab the epg using my skystar2 card You'll need to use either tv_grab_dvb or epgsnoop for this, if you want to use the new xmltvids then you'll need to use the unreleased version of epgsnoop. > * import it using either mythfilldatabase directly or tv_grab_nz-py > (whatever the difference is) tv_grab_nz-py is just an XMLTV compliant grabber. Now that mythfilldatabase can use any XMLTV compliant grabber in the PATH instead of just a list of hard coded ones then people like us get to use mythfilldatabase how it was meant to be used (i.e. not the --file option). Because tv_grab_nz-py is a grabber and is setup to fetch the listings from a web server if you want to run epgsnoop yourself the easiest way would be to run it and dump the listings data file to a local webserver. Then just adjust the tv_grab_nz-py script to fetch it's listings from there. I've thought about a version of epgsnoop that acts like an XMLTV compliant grabber but I've got enough half finished things at the moment. > * some clues on how to filter out the Sports Extra epg from freeview and > import just that one channel I haven't got that far yet, real work has been keeping me away from doing other fun stuff. hads -- http://nicegear.co.nz New Zealand's VoIP supplier From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 4 06:47:50 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Wade Maxfield) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 17:47:50 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] tv_grab_nz-py and MythTV 0.20.2 In-Reply-To: <46924.202.37.96.11.1188866999.squirrel@gilks.ath.cx> References: <200709041128.06155.hads@nice.net.nz> <46924.202.37.96.11.1188866999.squirrel@gilks.ath.cx> Message-ID: >Is there a howto somewhere that would wean me off the raw channel IDs and >make use of the new script? What I'd like to do is: > > * mysql script to change the channel ID based xmltvid's to named ones > * grab the epg using my skystar2 card > * import it using either mythfilldatabase directly or tv_grab_nz-py >(whatever the difference is) > * some clues on how to filter out the Sports Extra epg from freeview and >import just that one channel > >Cheers > >-- >Robin Gilks Basics of what I have set up is: Tune dvbstream to 1219, grab sky based data to .xml file Tune dvbstream to 1183, grab freeview based data, and split into individual channel files merge sky based data with sport extra file, import results with mythfilldatabase, then reschedule. My actual script massages the data in a couple of ways, and uploads a copy to my web server, so I've trimmed it a bit, just leaving the key bits. You'll no doubt need to tweak this to your setup. NEWFILE=/tmp/listings_beta-$$.xml cd /tmp/ # tune to sky transponder /usr/local/bin/dvbstream -s 22500 -o:/dev/null -f 1219 -p h -n 60 8192 & sleep 2 /usr/local/bin/epgsnoop > $NEWFILE killall dvbstream # wait a bit - since Steve sees overlapping data sleep 5 # tune to freeview transponder /usr/local/bin/dvbstream -s 22500 -o:/dev/null -f 1183 -p h -n 60 8192 & sleep 2 /usr/local/bin/epgsnoop | tv_split --output %channel.xml killall dvbstream sleep 2 # merge the data tv_cat --output /tmp/listings-latest_beta.xml /tmp/sportextra.freeview.co.nz.xml \ /tmp/tvnz6.freeview.co.nz.xml $NEWFILE # and fill the database mythfilldatabase --no-delete --file 2 -1 /tmp/listings-latest_beta.xml mythbackend --resched - Wade From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 4 07:43:32 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Steve Hodge) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 18:43:32 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] tv_grab_nz-py and MythTV 0.20.2 In-Reply-To: References: <200709041128.06155.hads@nice.net.nz> <46924.202.37.96.11.1188866999.squirrel@gilks.ath.cx> Message-ID: <24b589d90709032343s581ed5afte59a63352aa29890@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_22632_22087715.1188888212164 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 9/4/07, Wade Maxfield wrote: > > merge sky based data with sport extra file, import results with > mythfilldatabase, then reschedule. > ... > mythfilldatabase --no-delete --file 2 -1 /tmp/listings-latest_beta.xml > mythbackend --resched Do you know if that resched is definitely necessary? I always thought that mythfilldatabase triggered a resched anyway, but I've never been sure. Would be good to know... Cheers, Steve ------=_Part_22632_22087715.1188888212164 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 9/4/07, Wade Maxfield <mythtvnz@hotblack.co.nz> wrote:
merge sky based data with sport extra file, import results with
mythfilldatabase, then reschedule.
...
mythfilldatabase --no-delete --file 2 -1 /tmp/listings-latest_beta.xml
mythbackend --resched

Do you know if that resched is definitely necessary? I always thought that mythfilldatabase triggered a resched anyway, but I've never been sure. Would be good to know...

Cheers,
Steve


------=_Part_22632_22087715.1188888212164-- From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 4 09:14:54 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Wade Maxfield) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 20:14:54 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] tv_grab_nz-py and MythTV 0.20.2 In-Reply-To: <24b589d90709032343s581ed5afte59a63352aa29890@mail.gmail.com> References: <200709041128.06155.hads@nice.net.nz> <46924.202.37.96.11.1188866999.squirrel@gilks.ath.cx> <24b589d90709032343s581ed5afte59a63352aa29890@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: --============_-1023228800==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >On 9/4/07, Wade Maxfield ><mythtvnz@hotblack.co.nz> wrote: > >merge sky based data with sport extra file, import results with >mythfilldatabase, then reschedule. >... >mythfilldatabase --no-delete --file 2 -1 /tmp/listings-latest_beta.xml >mythbackend --resched > > >Do you know if that resched is definitely necessary? I always >thought that mythfilldatabase triggered a resched anyway, but I've >never been sure. Would be good to know... > >Cheers, >Steve Now that you mention it I don't think it's necessary. The script I was taking the lines from has a few extra things that I omitted, between those last 2 lines. - Wade --============_-1023228800==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: [mythtvnz] tv_grab_nz-py and MythTV 0.20.2
On 9/4/07, Wade Maxfield <mythtvnz@hotblack.co.nz> wrote:
merge sky based data with sport extra file, import results with
mythfilldatabase, then reschedule.
...
mythfilldatabase --no-delete --file 2 -1 /tmp/listings-latest_beta.xml
mythbackend --resched

Do you know if that resched is definitely necessary? I always thought that mythfilldatabase triggered a resched anyway, but I've never been sure. Would be good to know...
Cheers,
Steve

Now that you mention it I don't think it's necessary.  The script I was taking the lines from has a few extra things that I omitted, between those last 2 lines.

 - Wade
--============_-1023228800==_ma============-- From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 4 09:31:10 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Steven Ellis) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 20:31:10 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [mythtvnz] tv_grab_nz-py and MythTV 0.20.2 In-Reply-To: References: <200709041128.06155.hads@nice.net.nz> <46924.202.37.96.11.1188866999.squirrel@gilks.ath.cx> Message-ID: <35299.192.168.0.254.1188894670.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinux.net> On Tue, September 4, 2007 5:47 pm, Wade Maxfield wrote: >>Is there a howto somewhere that would wean me off the raw channel IDs a= nd >>make use of the new script? What I'd like to do is: >> >> * mysql script to change the channel ID based xmltvid's to named one= s >> * grab the epg using my skystar2 card >> * import it using either mythfilldatabase directly or tv_grab_nz-py >>(whatever the difference is) >> * some clues on how to filter out the Sports Extra epg from freeview >> and >>import just that one channel >> >>Cheers >> >>-- >>Robin Gilks > > Basics of what I have set up is: > > Tune dvbstream to 1219, grab sky based data to .xml file > Tune dvbstream to 1183, grab freeview based data, and split into > individual channel files > merge sky based data with sport extra file, import results with > mythfilldatabase, then reschedule. > > > My actual script massages the data in a couple of ways, and uploads a > copy to my web server, so I've trimmed it a bit, just leaving the key > bits. You'll no doubt need to tweak this to your setup. > > > NEWFILE=3D/tmp/listings_beta-$$.xml > > cd /tmp/ > # tune to sky transponder > /usr/local/bin/dvbstream -s 22500 -o:/dev/null -f 1219 -p h -n 60 8192 = & > sleep 2 > /usr/local/bin/epgsnoop > $NEWFILE > killall dvbstream > > # wait a bit - since Steve sees overlapping data > sleep 5 I've tried this. In then end I got dvbsnoop to grab 1000 packets of EIT data after a channel change to make sure I didn't pick up mixed data. Steve -------------------------------------------- Steven Ellis - Technical Director OpenMedia Limited - The Home of myPVR email - steven@openmedia.co.nz sales - sales@openmedia.co.nz support - support@openmedia.co.nz website - http://www.openmedia.co.nz From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 4 12:57:17 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Simon Green) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 23:57:17 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] Skystar USB in Linux Message-ID: Hi guys, Does anyone know if the Skystar USB box (e.g. http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.asp?id=116346650) works in Linux? -- simon From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 4 21:55:01 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Nick Rout) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 08:55:01 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [mythtvnz] Skystar USB in Linux In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <11605.219.89.81.142.1188939301.squirrel@rout.dyndns.org> On Tue, September 4, 2007 11:57 pm, Simon Green wrote: > Hi guys, > > Does anyone know if the Skystar USB box (e.g. > http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.asp?id=3D116346650) works in Linux? > > -- simon http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-S_USB_Devices mentions two USB skystar cards, although identifying exact models is not that easy. --=20 Nick Rout From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Wed Sep 5 19:16:09 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Henry Cline) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 06:16:09 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] Dual Satelite Usage within MythTV Message-ID: <1189016169.11056.17.camel@boris.dragon-is.co.nz> Afternoon all, While sitting here not feeling very well (supposedly, ok, so I thought that having a 'mental health day was a good idea), decided that it is time to play with the MythTV box. I am using two skystar II cards for doign the basic FreeView stuff which works pretty well, but I am using a dish that has one of those dual lnb, (but it only has the single cable coming out of it) that supposedly can do Optus D1 & B3 (Thanks Mr Sky) >From my basic understanding, is that I need to be able to send a 22kHz tone to switch from one sat to the other, can this be done using just the MythTV box. My setup is dish -> 2 way splitter -> skystar II cards Do I need to invest in additional hardware etc .. ?? I realise that I probably won't be able to access both sats at the same time, that doesn't worry me, but it could be a bit of fun to play with (and good in the show off factor when the brother-in-law comes to visit). BTW - I no longer have Sky TV, so there is not a Sky STB in the loop, in case that makes a difference. Cheers HC From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Wed Sep 5 21:20:38 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Steven Ellis) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 08:20:38 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] Dual Satelite Usage within MythTV In-Reply-To: <1189016169.11056.17.camel@boris.dragon-is.co.nz> References: <1189016169.11056.17.camel@boris.dragon-is.co.nz> Message-ID: <46DF0F96.6050007@openmedia.co.nz> Henry Cline wrote: > Afternoon all, > > While sitting here not feeling very well (supposedly, ok, so I thought > that having a 'mental health day was a good idea), decided that it is > time to play with the MythTV box. > > I am using two skystar II cards for doign the basic FreeView stuff which > works pretty well, but I am using a dish that has one of those dual lnb, > (but it only has the single cable coming out of it) that supposedly can > do Optus D1 & B3 (Thanks Mr Sky) > Hate to break this too you but the Sky dual LNBs do D1 + C1. Also all of the services you can pick up on C1 are encrypted and require and Aurora Card. > >From my basic understanding, is that I need to be able to send a 22kHz > tone to switch from one sat to the other, can this be done using just > the MythTV box. > > My setup is dish -> 2 way splitter -> skystar II cards > Single or dual port power pass splitter? Steve -- Steven Ellis - Technical Director OpenMedia Limited email - steven@openmedia.co.nz sales - sales@openmedia.co.nz support - support@openmedia.co.nz website - http://www.openmedia.co.nz From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Wed Sep 5 23:05:15 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Henry Cline) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 10:05:15 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] Dual Satelite Usage within MythTV In-Reply-To: <46DF0F96.6050007@openmedia.co.nz> References: <1189016169.11056.17.camel@boris.dragon-is.co.nz> <46DF0F96.6050007@openmedia.co.nz> Message-ID: <1189029915.12707.2.camel@boris.dragon-is.co.nz> On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 08:20 +1200, Steven Ellis wrote: > > > Hate to break this too you but the Sky dual LNBs do D1 + C1. Also all of > the services you can pick up on C1 are encrypted and require and Aurora > Card. Bugger... so much for that plan > > >From my basic understanding, is that I need to be able to send a 22kHz > > tone to switch from one sat to the other, can this be done using just > > the MythTV box. > > > > My setup is dish -> 2 way splitter -> skystar II cards > > > Single or dual port power pass splitter? dual but there is a single floating around here somewhere. From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Thu Sep 6 09:55:46 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Simon Green) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 20:55:46 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] Skystar USB in Linux In-Reply-To: <11605.219.89.81.142.1188939301.squirrel@rout.dyndns.org> References: <11605.219.89.81.142.1188939301.squirrel@rout.dyndns.org> Message-ID: On 05/09/07, Nick Rout wrote: > http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-S_USB_Devices > > mentions two USB skystar cards, although identifying exact models is not > that easy. Thanks. I've gone and bought one of these, but now am having problems setting it up. I am a current sky subscriber and have pulled the satellite cable out of the sky box and plugged it into the skystar2 usb box. I'm running Ubuntu Fesity 64bit, and have a pvr150 (pci) card in my box, and have installed the dvbsnoop, dvbtune and dvb-utils packages. lsusb reports: Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0af7:0101 B2C2, Inc. Digital TV USB Receiver (DVB-S/T/C / ATSC) lsmod|grep b2c2 reports: b2c2_flexcop_usb 9476 8 b2c2_flexcop 30604 1 b2c2_flexcop_usb dvb_core 92336 2 stv0299,b2c2_flexcop dvb_pll 17540 1 b2c2_flexcop i2c_core 26496 16 lirc_pvr150,cx88xx,bttv,lirc_i2c,i2c_ec,wm8775,cx25840,tuner,stv0299,b2c2_flexcop,ivtv,nvidia,dvb_pll,i2c_algo_bit,tveeprom,i2c_viapro usbcore 154416 4 b2c2_flexcop_usb,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd (without me modprobing) so it seems the computer has found the device okay. The tuner appears to be of the stv0299 type. Since my sky dish was installed about two months ago, I am assuming I am using the new LNB frequency of 10750. Following the instructions on the wlug wiki, I tried this: simon@mythbox:~$ dvbtune -f 1733000 -s 22500 -p h -m Using DVB card "ST STV0299 DVB-S" tuning DVB-S to L-Band:0, Pol:H Srate=22500000, 22kHz=off ERROR setting tone : Invalid argument polling.... Getting frontend event FE_STATUS: polling.... Getting frontend event FE_STATUS: FE_HAS_SIGNAL FE_HAS_CARRIER polling.... polling.... polling.... ... I get the same output if I try a frequency of 1183000. Help! -- simon From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Sat Sep 8 07:27:48 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Robin Gilks) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 18:27:48 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [mythtvnz] Title change alert Message-ID: <48247.192.168.1.15.1189232868.squirrel@gilks.ath.cx> Just discovered that "One News" is now called "One News at 6pm" so I missed the first 5 minutes today!! -- Robin Gilks From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Mon Sep 10 03:35:56 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Craig Whitmore) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:35:56 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] Satellite Splitter and other Stuff.. Message-ID: <005901c7f353$52a88740$f7f995c0$@net.nz> This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005A_01C7F3B7.E7DD6740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have 1 Dish and have SKY/DVB Card and at the moment I have to keep swapping the cables over. So what I want is a splitter (ie 1 in/multiple out). There are quite a few on trademe and I was wondering which one do I need? http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/TVs/Cables-aerials/auction- 117318628.htm?p=1 http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/TVs/Cables-aerials/auction- 117089780.htm?p=3 http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/TVs/Cables-aerials/auction- 116614016.htm?p=5 http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/TVs/Cables-aerials/auction- 117469846.htm?p=12 Or can someone supply me a splitter with 2 short cables (for out -> receivers) (off-list) Also I am looking for a bigger system (Larger Antenna with mover etc to get multiple channels if someone can quote me off list for hardware/install). And thirdly.. I am looking into getting as many channels as possible, but running them at the same time (feeding them into multiple receivers) instead of having to wait for the mover to move it to see the other channels and loosing the channel I want just tuned to. Any ideas? (7? 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I have 1 Dish and have SKY/DVB Card and at the = moment I have to keep swapping the cables over.  So what I want is a splitter (ie = 1 in/multiple out). There are quite a few on trademe and I was wondering = which one do I need?

 

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------=_NextPart_000_005A_01C7F3B7.E7DD6740-- From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Mon Sep 10 04:09:22 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Steven Ellis) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:09:22 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [mythtvnz] Satellite Splitter and other Stuff.. In-Reply-To: <005901c7f353$52a88740$f7f995c0$@net.nz> References: <005901c7f353$52a88740$f7f995c0$@net.nz> Message-ID: <17110.203.163.71.197.1189393762.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinux.net> Hi Craig On Mon, September 10, 2007 2:35 pm, Craig Whitmore wrote: > I have 1 Dish and have SKY/DVB Card and at the moment I have to keep > swapping the cables over. So what I want is a splitter (ie 1 in/multip= le > out). There are quite a few on trademe and I was wondering which one do= I > need? > > > > http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/TVs/Cables-aerials/auc= tion- > 117318628.htm?p=3D1 > > http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/TVs/Cables-aerials/auc= tion- > 117089780.htm?p=3D3 > > http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/TVs/Cables-aerials/auc= tion- > 116614016.htm?p=3D5 > > http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/TVs/Cables-aerials/auc= tion- > 117469846.htm?p=3D12 > > > > Or can someone supply me a splitter with 2 short cables (for out -> > receivers) (off-list) I'd recommend a single port power pass as you have Sky. For some people who use a dual port power pass there can be issues with Sky reception whe= n changing freeview channels. > > > Also I am looking for a bigger system (Larger Antenna with mover etc to > get > multiple channels if someone can quote me off list for hardware/install= ). Just Ku or also C? > And thirdly.. I am looking into getting as many channels as possible, b= ut > running them at the same time (feeding them into multiple receivers) > instead of having to wait for the mover to move it to see the other > channels > and loosing the channel I want just tuned to. Any ideas? (7? Ku > Satellites > with H+V means 2 * Toroidal Dishes with 7 LNB's each?) (into then 14 DV= B > cards) What you are looking at is something like this http://www.freeviewshop.co.nz/8-input-8-output-satellite-multiswitch-p-40= 4.html For Ku you are looking at 7/8 birds from NZ, but some of them have nothin= g on them, and most are single Pol. A Toroidal plus a single dish would probably work. On the Toroidal Optus B3 - V Only Optus C1 - V Only - you need an Aurora card (D2 replaces this later in th= e year) Optus D1 - H + V (V for Feeds), just use a dual ported LNB Pas 2 - Airang - Korean Pas 8 - Mac Tv (Taiwan) + ETC Punjabi GE23 - Formally AMC23, currently empty but occasional feeds NSS5 - Odd feeds, some signals later this year. On the other dish you could get AsiaSat4 For more details on channels look at http://www.freeviewshop.co.nz/channels.html Personally on my Toroidal I have B3, D1, Pas8 and NSS5 at present. D1 is dual ported so I can do H + V. Steve -------------------------------------------- Steven Ellis - Technical Director OpenMedia Limited - The Home of myPVR email - steven@openmedia.co.nz sales - sales@openmedia.co.nz support - support@openmedia.co.nz website - http://www.openmedia.co.nz From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Mon Sep 10 04:45:19 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Craig Whitmore) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:45:19 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] Satellite Splitter and other Stuff.. References: <005901c7f353$52a88740$f7f995c0$@net.nz> <17110.203.163.71.197.1189393762.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinux.net> Message-ID: <1E7E9AF849904EA5B8582A127748B233@office.orcon.net.nz> > Just Ku or also C? As far as I know the C Band dishes are huge amd would mean an ugly (as my partner says) 2-3M dish on the front lawn unless it can be mounted on the root? >What you are looking at is something like this > http://www.freeviewshop.co.nz/8-input-8-output-satellite-multiswitch-p-404.html If I read this right. it would take all the inputs and be able to change to any of the inputs with DiSEqC 1.0, tone and voltage? And would work with cards which only do DiSEqC 1.0 (hauppauge I have) (1 output only) or if I wanted 8 outputs it would work as well. --------- On the Toroidal Optus B3 - V Only Optus C1 - V Only - you need an Aurora card (D2 replaces this later in the year) Optus D1 - H + V (V for Feeds), just use a dual ported LNB Pas 2 - Airang - Korean Pas 8 - Mac Tv (Taiwan) + ETC Punjabi GE23 - Formally AMC23, currently empty but occasional feeds NSS5 - Odd feeds, some signals later this year. ----------- Anyone want to quote me (offlist) on a similar set up (Torodial + LNB's, Cable + Splitter) + install on roof (West Auckland). I think C Band I can wait for until later. I should finally have my Hauppauge HFR-4000 at the end of the week and get that working.. The Nova-S-Plus card I have at the moment is good (I'm selling it) , but has a little known problem with vlc which I'm using it with for encoding. Thanks From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Mon Sep 10 12:55:24 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Steven Ellis) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 23:55:24 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] tv_grab_nz-py and MythTV 0.20.2 In-Reply-To: <200709041128.06155.hads@nice.net.nz> References: <200709041128.06155.hads@nice.net.nz> Message-ID: <46E530AC.3060900@openmedia.co.nz> Hadley Rich wrote: > Hey all, > > Speaking of backporting things in another thread reminded me that one of the > MythTV devs backported some major mythfilldatabase changes to 0.20-fixes just > before the 0.20.2 release. > > This will allow tv_grab_nz-py to work just like any of the other official > grabbers if you have it in your PATH. > > You will be able to set it up through mythv-setup and get myth to run > mythfilldatabase for you automatically etc. > > hads > > Just been having some epg grabber issues due to the way mythfilldatabase now works Hadley - How do you cope with the fact that mythfilldatabase now calls the xmltv script for each day it wants data. Do you cache the file so it only gets downloaded the once? Steve -- Steven Ellis - Technical Director OpenMedia Limited email - steven@openmedia.co.nz sales - sales@openmedia.co.nz support - support@openmedia.co.nz website - http://www.openmedia.co.nz From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Mon Sep 10 21:52:27 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Hadley Rich) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 08:52:27 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] tv_grab_nz-py and MythTV 0.20.2 In-Reply-To: <46E530AC.3060900@openmedia.co.nz> References: <200709041128.06155.hads@nice.net.nz> <46E530AC.3060900@openmedia.co.nz> Message-ID: <200709110852.27908.hads@nice.net.nz> On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 23:55:24 Steven Ellis wrote: > Just been having some epg grabber issues due to the way mythfilldatabase > now works > > Hadley - How do you cope with the fact that mythfilldatabase now calls > the xmltv script for each day it wants data. Do you cache the file so it > only gets downloaded the once? You need to support the XLMTV capabilities option. If you show allatonce when called with --preferredmethod then mythfilldatabase will only call the grabber once and use as much data is as given. Unfortunately mythfilldatabase still calls the grabber once for each input that is configured. I did implement the cache option which is in the XMLTV specs but it doesn't appear that myth (or any of the other XMLTV grabbers) support it :) I've thought about doing some internal caching to get around this but it hasn't been high on my priority list lately. hads -- http://nicegear.co.nz New Zealand's VoIP Supplier From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Mon Sep 10 22:13:38 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Craig Whitmore) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 09:13:38 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] Sky viewers may get new TVNZ channels after all .... Message-ID: <9DE18B442FF249A98BA831A69815FDE5@office.orcon.net.nz> http://www.stuff.co.nz/4196731a28.html From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Mon Sep 10 22:18:12 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Sam Hadley-Jones) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 09:18:12 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] Multiple recordings from the same multiplex In-Reply-To: <20070910110008.46505.75277.Mailman@cat.ourshack.com> References: <20070910110008.46505.75277.Mailman@cat.ourshack.com> Message-ID: <1189459092.5665.20.camel@rambo> Hi guys, One of the reason I bought my second skystar 2 card was so that I could record any number of channels (on freeview) at the same time. MythTV currently doesn't allow you to do this but there is a separate branch of mythtv on the svn server called multirec. I downloaded and built it last week but it wasn't very stable. Has anyone else had success with the multirec branch? I also got VLC set up as a streaming server - splitting all channels on both multiplexes and pushing UDP streams to the backend. It worked well except that VLC used 15% CPU time per CPU on my dual core amd64 4000+ regardless of how many channels are being watched or recorded. I understand that this is because VLC is constantly converting the streams with no control. MythTV doesn't request the streams - the backend simply starts listening on a UDP port when it wants a channel feed. Would this work better with an HTTP stream instead? I know there would be more overheads for HTTP and TCP but would this then allow VLC to determine when a stream is not needed and give my CPUs back some sleep cycles? Does MythTV support HTTP streams? Cheers, Sam. From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Mon Sep 10 22:37:02 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Steven Ellis) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 09:37:02 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] tv_grab_nz-py and MythTV 0.20.2 In-Reply-To: <200709110852.27908.hads@nice.net.nz> References: <200709041128.06155.hads@nice.net.nz> <46E530AC.3060900@openmedia.co.nz> <200709110852.27908.hads@nice.net.nz> Message-ID: <46E5B8FE.4000105@openmedia.co.nz> Hadley Rich wrote: > On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 23:55:24 Steven Ellis wrote: > >> Just been having some epg grabber issues due to the way mythfilldatabase >> now works >> >> Hadley - How do you cope with the fact that mythfilldatabase now calls >> the xmltv script for each day it wants data. Do you cache the file so it >> only gets downloaded the once? >> > > You need to support the XLMTV capabilities option. If you show allatonce when > called with --preferredmethod then mythfilldatabase will only call the > grabber once and use as much data is as given. > Hadley - Thanks for that. The missing piece of the puzzle. > Unfortunately mythfilldatabase still calls the grabber once for each input > that is configured. I did implement the cache option which is in the XMLTV > specs but it doesn't appear that myth (or any of the other XMLTV grabbers) > support it :) I've thought about doing some internal caching to get around > this but it hasn't been high on my priority list lately. > Still at most people might call it twice. The problem with missing "allatonce" support was my own grabber was being called a hell of a lot more than that. Steve -- Steven Ellis - Technical Director OpenMedia Limited email - steven@openmedia.co.nz sales - sales@openmedia.co.nz support - support@openmedia.co.nz website - http://www.openmedia.co.nz From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Mon Sep 10 22:37:54 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Johan Schuld) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 09:37:54 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] BVN (Dutch) @ B3 and Hello Message-ID: <51d84c760709101437oef8d7e3v38944c1e5e83a7fd@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_12356_30903057.1189460274664 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello all. I've been "listening" in for a while so I thought I'd better let myself know. I'm mythtv-ing for about 3 monthts now and I'm very happy with it. I've got an old Dell system setup (nice and quiet) running Suse 10.2 and a PVR-150. For EPG I thankfully use hairygeek's guide (thanks!!). As I don't have a DVB-S card (yet), I use an external decoder for Optus B3, primarily to receive BVN (A Dutch channel). Unfortunately there is no EPG for this from the satellite but there is this very nice chap up in the states who wrote a script to scrape their website and stores it in XMLTV format. So just in case there are more dutchies hanging around here, have a look at : http://www.reinalda.net/software.html. If you are able to use it, send the guy an e-mail as I'm sure likes hearing his SW is used. A cool feature of his grabber is that a weekly overview is e-mailed to select addresses in HTML format. If you click on an episode it will take you to your mythtv's myth-web and you can choose to record it. Anyways.. keep up the good work all. Cheers, Johan ------=_Part_12356_30903057.1189460274664 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello all.

I've been "listening" in for a while so I thought I'd better let myself know. I'm mythtv-ing for about 3 monthts now and I'm very happy with it. I've got an old Dell system setup (nice and quiet) running Suse 10.2 and a PVR-150.

For EPG I thankfully use hairygeek's guide (thanks!!).

As I don't have a DVB-S card (yet), I use an external decoder for Optus B3, primarily to receive BVN (A Dutch channel). Unfortunately there is no EPG for this from the satellite but there is this very nice chap up in the states who wrote a script to scrape their website and stores it in XMLTV  format. So just in case there are more dutchies hanging around here, have a look at : http://www.reinalda.net/software.html. If you are able to use it, send the guy an e-mail as I'm sure likes hearing his SW is used.

A cool feature of his grabber is that a weekly overview is e-mailed to select addresses in HTML format. If you click on an episode it will take you to your mythtv's myth-web and you can choose to record it.

Anyways.. keep up the good work all.

Cheers,
Johan
------=_Part_12356_30903057.1189460274664-- From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Mon Sep 10 22:52:31 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Craig Whitmore) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 09:52:31 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] Multiple recordings from the same multiplex In-Reply-To: <1189459092.5665.20.camel@rambo> References: <20070910110008.46505.75277.Mailman@cat.ourshack.com> <1189459092.5665.20.camel@rambo> Message-ID: <001401c7f3f4$e33ddac0$a9b99040$@net.nz> > I also got VLC set up as a streaming server - splitting all channels on > both multiplexes and pushing UDP streams to the backend. It worked well How are you converting the channels? No transcoding straight into multicast UDP or what? (This is the best way). Using VLM mode you can set up a vlm.conf such as below (or you can do a straight vlc --program=1025,1035,1036 dvb: --dvb-adapter=0 --dvb-frequency=1733000 .. etc new freeview broadcast enabled setup freeview input "dvb://" setup freeview option dvb-adapter=0 setup freeview option dvb-frequency=1183000 setup freeview option dvb-srate=22500000 setup freeview option dvb-voltage=18 setup freeview option dvb-fec=9 setup freeview option dvb-tone=0 setup freeview option programs=1025,1035,1036 setup freeview option ts-es-id-pid setup freeview output #duplicate{dst=standard{access=udp,mux=ts,url=239.255.100.98:1234,sap,group= "Freeview",name="MaoriTV"},select="program=1025",dst=standard{access=udp,mux =ts,url=239.255.100.99:1234,sap,group="Freeview",name="TV1"},select="program =1035",dst=standard{access=udp,mux=ts,url=239.255.100.100:1234,sap,group="Fr eeview",name="TV2"},select="program=1036"} etc... (I think I got the above right for 3 channels.. this will send all as Multicast UDP packets and advertise via SAP/SDP ....and then you can view on another vlc or whatever you want to use. Thanks _______________________________________________ mythtvnz mailing list mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz http://lists.ourshack.com/mailman/listinfo/mythtvnz Archives http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/mythtvnz/ From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Mon Sep 10 23:59:42 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Steven Ellis) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 10:59:42 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [mythtvnz] Multiple recordings from the same multiplex In-Reply-To: <001401c7f3f4$e33ddac0$a9b99040$@net.nz> References: <20070910110008.46505.75277.Mailman@cat.ourshack.com> <1189459092.5665.20.camel@rambo> <001401c7f3f4$e33ddac0$a9b99040$@net.nz> Message-ID: <4074.203.163.71.197.1189465182.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.no-ip.org> On Tue, September 11, 2007 9:52 am, Craig Whitmore wrote: >> I also got VLC set up as a streaming server - splitting all channels o= n >> both multiplexes and pushing UDP streams to the backend. It worked wel= l > > > How are you converting the channels? No transcoding straight into > multicast > UDP or what? (This is the best way). Using VLM mode you can set up a > vlm.conf such as below (or you can do a straight vlc > --program=3D1025,1035,1036 dvb: --dvb-adapter=3D0 --dvb-frequency=3D173= 3000 .. > etc > > new freeview broadcast enabled > setup freeview input "dvb://" > setup freeview option dvb-adapter=3D0 > setup freeview option dvb-frequency=3D1183000 > setup freeview option dvb-srate=3D22500000 > setup freeview option dvb-voltage=3D18 > setup freeview option dvb-fec=3D9 > setup freeview option dvb-tone=3D0 > setup freeview option programs=3D1025,1035,1036 > setup freeview option ts-es-id-pid > > setup freeview output > #duplicate{dst=3Dstandard{access=3Dudp,mux=3Dts,url=3D239.255.100.98:12= 34,sap,group=3D > "Freeview",name=3D"MaoriTV"},select=3D"program=3D1025",dst=3Dstandard{a= ccess=3Dudp,mux > =3Dts,url=3D239.255.100.99:1234,sap,group=3D"Freeview",name=3D"TV1"},se= lect=3D"program > =3D1035",dst=3Dstandard{access=3Dudp,mux=3Dts,url=3D239.255.100.100:123= 4,sap,group=3D"Fr > eeview",name=3D"TV2"},select=3D"program=3D1036"} > > etc... (I think I got the above right for 3 channels.. > this will send all as Multicast UDP packets and advertise via SAP/SDP > ....and then you can view on another vlc or whatever you want to use. > Also how are you tuning into these from MythTV. Steve -------------------------------------------- Steven Ellis - Technical Director OpenMedia Limited - The Home of myPVR email - steven@openmedia.co.nz sales - sales@openmedia.co.nz support - support@openmedia.co.nz website - http://www.openmedia.co.nz From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 11 00:19:49 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Craig Whitmore) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 11:19:49 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] Multiple recordings from the same multiplex In-Reply-To: <4074.203.163.71.197.1189465182.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.no-ip.org> References: <20070910110008.46505.75277.Mailman@cat.ourshack.com> <1189459092.5665.20.camel@rambo> <001401c7f3f4$e33ddac0$a9b99040$@net.nz> <4074.203.163.71.197.1189465182.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.no-ip.org> Message-ID: <002d01c7f401$15bc6000$41352000$@net.nz> > etc... (I think I got the above right for 3 channels.. > this will send all as Multicast UDP packets and advertise via SAP/SDP > ....and then you can view on another vlc or whatever you want to use. > Also how are you tuning into these from MythTV. You can use I'm pretty sure (I've never got it working myself) with mythstream or you can use a standard Ethernet STB (say amino box or alike) Thanks Craig From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 11 00:47:14 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Barry Clearwater) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 23:47:14 +0000 Subject: [mythtvnz] tv_grab_nz-py and MythTV 0.20.2 In-Reply-To: <46E5B8FE.4000105@openmedia.co.nz> References: <200709041128.06155.hads@nice.net.nz> <46E530AC.3060900@openmedia.co.nz> <200709110852.27908.hads@nice.net.nz> <46E5B8FE.4000105@openmedia.co.nz> Message-ID: <1189468034.11113.117.camel@mordecai2.bcsystems.co.nz.> The tvgrab script is brilliant, but things have been quite changable over the last few months. We could do with an easy howto for nz channels, maybe even seperating out the sky based steps from the freeview and the terrestrial. My own setup is a bit cobbled together also from reading bits of advise here and there on the mailing list. q: Do we have or could we organise a wiki page that will keep us going untill tv_grab_nz becomes part of a release? I'd be keen to help (even as a bit of a novice) having a rough idea and willing to be corrected. Barry On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 09:37 +1200, Steven Ellis wrote: > Hadley Rich wrote: > > On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 23:55:24 Steven Ellis wrote: > > > >> Just been having some epg grabber issues due to the way mythfilldatabase > >> now works > >> > >> Hadley - How do you cope with the fact that mythfilldatabase now calls > >> the xmltv script for each day it wants data. Do you cache the file so it > >> only gets downloaded the once? > >> > > > > You need to support the XLMTV capabilities option. If you show allatonce when > > called with --preferredmethod then mythfilldatabase will only call the > > grabber once and use as much data is as given. > > > Hadley - Thanks for that. The missing piece of the puzzle. > > > Unfortunately mythfilldatabase still calls the grabber once for each input > > that is configured. I did implement the cache option which is in the XMLTV > > specs but it doesn't appear that myth (or any of the other XMLTV grabbers) > > support it :) I've thought about doing some internal caching to get around > > this but it hasn't been high on my priority list lately. > > > Still at most people might call it twice. The problem with missing > "allatonce" support was my own grabber was being called a hell of a lot > more than that. > > Steve > 18 Shaw Street Mosgiel mailto:barryc@bcsystems.co.nz ph 03 4893915 mob 027 2219338 From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 11 00:48:17 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Barry Clearwater) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 23:48:17 +0000 Subject: [mythtvnz] Sky viewers may get new TVNZ channels after all .... In-Reply-To: <9DE18B442FF249A98BA831A69815FDE5@office.orcon.net.nz> References: <9DE18B442FF249A98BA831A69815FDE5@office.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: <1189468097.11113.119.camel@mordecai2.bcsystems.co.nz.> So what does this part mean then, "The approach could let Sky get around a copyright restriction that TVNZ believes would prevent the pay-TV company from loading the new channels into its electronic programming guide without TVNZ's permission." Don't we get tvnz info off the sky epg already? Barry On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 09:13 +1200, Craig Whitmore wrote: > http://www.stuff.co.nz/4196731a28.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > mythtvnz mailing list > mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz > http://lists.ourshack.com/mailman/listinfo/mythtvnz > Archives http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/mythtvnz/ > > 18 Shaw Street Mosgiel mailto:barryc@bcsystems.co.nz ph 03 4893915 mob 027 2219338 From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 11 00:58:17 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Steve Hodge) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 11:58:17 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] Sky viewers may get new TVNZ channels after all .... In-Reply-To: <1189468097.11113.119.camel@mordecai2.bcsystems.co.nz.> References: <9DE18B442FF249A98BA831A69815FDE5@office.orcon.net.nz> <1189468097.11113.119.camel@mordecai2.bcsystems.co.nz.> Message-ID: <24b589d90709101658g20079632qec963e8554cb4db7@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_10430_25936319.1189468697410 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 9/11/07, Barry Clearwater wrote: > > So what does this part mean then, > "The approach could let Sky get around a copyright restriction that TVNZ > believes would prevent the pay-TV company from loading the new channels > into its electronic programming guide without TVNZ's permission." > Don't we get tvnz info off the sky epg already? Sky have permission to rebroadcast the EPG data for One and 2. They don't have permission for any new channels. However if they can put the box into "Freeview mode" then they don't need to rebroadcast the EPG data, the box can just operate as any other Freeview box does. I'm not sure what is preventing them from using the EPG data TVNZ transmits now though. Cheers, Steve ------=_Part_10430_25936319.1189468697410 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 9/11/07, Barry Clearwater <barryc@bcsystems.co.nz> wrote:
So what does this part mean then,
"The approach could let Sky get around a copyright restriction that TVNZ
believes would prevent the pay-TV company from loading the new channels
into its electronic programming guide without TVNZ's permission."
Don't we get tvnz info off the sky epg already?

Sky have permission to rebroadcast the EPG data for One and 2. They don't have permission for any new channels. However if they can put the box into "Freeview  mode" then they don't need to rebroadcast the EPG data, the box can just operate as any other Freeview box does.

I'm not sure what is preventing them from using the EPG data TVNZ transmits now though.

Cheers,
Steve


------=_Part_10430_25936319.1189468697410-- From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 11 01:04:44 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Steven Ellis) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:04:44 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [mythtvnz] Sky viewers may get new TVNZ channels after all .... In-Reply-To: <1189468097.11113.119.camel@mordecai2.bcsystems.co.nz.> References: <9DE18B442FF249A98BA831A69815FDE5@office.orcon.net.nz> <1189468097.11113.119.camel@mordecai2.bcsystems.co.nz.> Message-ID: <38859.203.163.71.197.1189469084.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.no-ip.org> On Tue, September 11, 2007 11:48 am, Barry Clearwater wrote: > So what does this part mean then, > "The approach could let Sky get around a copyright restriction that TVN= Z > believes would prevent the pay-TV company from loading the new channels > into its electronic programming guide without TVNZ's permission." > Don't we get tvnz info off the sky epg already? Sky currently have the right to the TVNZ EPG info for 1 + 2. TVNZ provide this to them. They don't have any rights to re-publish for their STBs TVNZ6. > Barry > > On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 09:13 +1200, Craig Whitmore wrote: >> http://www.stuff.co.nz/4196731a28.html >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mythtvnz mailing list >> mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz >> http://lists.ourshack.com/mailman/listinfo/mythtvnz >> Archives http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/mythtvnz/ >> >> > > 18 Shaw Street > Mosgiel > mailto:barryc@bcsystems.co.nz > ph 03 4893915 > mob 027 2219338 > > > _______________________________________________ > mythtvnz mailing list > mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz > http://lists.ourshack.com/mailman/listinfo/mythtvnz > Archives http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/mythtvnz/ > -------------------------------------------- Steven Ellis - Technical Director OpenMedia Limited - The Home of myPVR email - steven@openmedia.co.nz sales - sales@openmedia.co.nz support - support@openmedia.co.nz website - http://www.openmedia.co.nz From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 11 01:15:39 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Steven Ellis) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:15:39 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [mythtvnz] Sky viewers may get new TVNZ channels after all .... In-Reply-To: <24b589d90709101658g20079632qec963e8554cb4db7@mail.gmail.com> References: <9DE18B442FF249A98BA831A69815FDE5@office.orcon.net.nz> <1189468097.11113.119.camel@mordecai2.bcsystems.co.nz.> <24b589d90709101658g20079632qec963e8554cb4db7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45299.203.163.71.197.1189469739.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.no-ip.org> On Tue, September 11, 2007 11:58 am, Steve Hodge wrote: > On 9/11/07, Barry Clearwater wrote: >> >> So what does this part mean then, >> "The approach could let Sky get around a copyright restriction that TV= NZ >> believes would prevent the pay-TV company from loading the new channel= s >> into its electronic programming guide without TVNZ's permission." >> Don't we get tvnz info off the sky epg already? > > > Sky have permission to rebroadcast the EPG data for One and 2. They don= 't > have permission for any new channels. However if they can put the box i= nto > "Freeview mode" then they don't need to rebroadcast the EPG data, the = box > can just operate as any other Freeview box does. > > I'm not sure what is preventing them from using the EPG data TVNZ > transmits > now though. Their STBs use more than just the DVB EIT data to work. Steve -------------------------------------------- Steven Ellis - Technical Director OpenMedia Limited - The Home of myPVR email - steven@openmedia.co.nz sales - sales@openmedia.co.nz support - support@openmedia.co.nz website - http://www.openmedia.co.nz From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 11 02:02:31 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Robin Gilks) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:02:31 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [mythtvnz] tv_grab_nz-py and MythTV 0.20.2 In-Reply-To: <1189468034.11113.117.camel@mordecai2.bcsystems.co.nz.> References: <200709041128.06155.hads@nice.net.nz> <46E530AC.3060900@openmedia.co.nz> <200709110852.27908.hads@nice.net.nz> <46E5B8FE.4000105@openmedia.co.nz> <1189468034.11113.117.camel@mordecai2.bcsystems.co.nz.> Message-ID: <33157.202.37.96.11.1189472551.squirrel@gilks.ath.cx> > The tvgrab script is brilliant, but things have been quite changable > over the last few months. We could do with an easy howto for nz > channels, maybe even seperating out the sky based steps from the > freeview and the terrestrial. > My own setup is a bit cobbled together also from reading bits of advise > here and there on the mailing list. > > q: Do we have or could we organise a wiki page that will keep us going > untill tv_grab_nz becomes part of a release? I'd be keen to help (even > as a bit of a novice) having a rough idea and willing to be corrected. > > Barry I second that. I've got very confused with all the recent changes and since I'm pulling my own epg data using epgsnoop and not 'net connected for the guide data, I'd like to help in putting together (or at least testing) a howto. The splitting into two parts - generating the xml file and then either using (or downloading) it and getting it into mythtv would seem the appropriate way, then a lot of people will only require the second half of the instructions. -- Robin Gilks From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 11 02:57:12 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Steve Hodge) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:57:12 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] Sky viewers may get new TVNZ channels after all .... In-Reply-To: <45299.203.163.71.197.1189469739.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.no-ip.org> References: <9DE18B442FF249A98BA831A69815FDE5@office.orcon.net.nz> <1189468097.11113.119.camel@mordecai2.bcsystems.co.nz.> <24b589d90709101658g20079632qec963e8554cb4db7@mail.gmail.com> <45299.203.163.71.197.1189469739.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.no-ip.org> Message-ID: <24b589d90709101857l7f236335mf2c9b441ebbd2bcc@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_10723_12745104.1189475832592 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 9/11/07, Steven Ellis wrote: > > On Tue, September 11, 2007 11:58 am, Steve Hodge wrote: > > I'm not sure what is preventing them from using the EPG data TVNZ > > transmits now though. > > Their STBs use more than just the DVB EIT data to work. But does it need to or is it just due to the way they've currently implemented it? I mean I can't see anything in the Sky EPG that isn't available in the EIT data (though I haven't looked closely), so presumably they could implement their EPG using just the EIT data and if they did that they could use TVNZ's transmission as the source for TVNZ6 and 7. Cheers, Steve ------=_Part_10723_12745104.1189475832592 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 9/11/07, Steven Ellis <steven@openmedia.co.nz> wrote:
On Tue, September 11, 2007 11:58 am, Steve Hodge wrote:
> I'm not sure what is preventing them from using the EPG data TVNZ
> transmits now though.

Their STBs use more than just the DVB EIT data to work.

But does it need to or is it just due to the way they've currently implemented it? I mean I can't see anything in the Sky EPG that isn't available in the EIT data (though I haven't looked closely), so presumably they could implement their EPG using just the EIT data and if they did that they could use TVNZ's transmission as the source for TVNZ6 and 7.

Cheers,
Steve

------=_Part_10723_12745104.1189475832592-- From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 11 03:26:26 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Steven Ellis) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 14:26:26 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [mythtvnz] Sky viewers may get new TVNZ channels after all .... In-Reply-To: <24b589d90709101857l7f236335mf2c9b441ebbd2bcc@mail.gmail.com> References: <9DE18B442FF249A98BA831A69815FDE5@office.orcon.net.nz> <1189468097.11113.119.camel@mordecai2.bcsystems.co.nz.> <24b589d90709101658g20079632qec963e8554cb4db7@mail.gmail.com> <45299.203.163.71.197.1189469739.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.no-ip.org> <24b589d90709101857l7f236335mf2c9b441ebbd2bcc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <50806.203.163.71.197.1189477586.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.no-ip.org> On Tue, September 11, 2007 1:57 pm, Steve Hodge wrote: > On 9/11/07, Steven Ellis wrote: >> >> On Tue, September 11, 2007 11:58 am, Steve Hodge wrote: >> > I'm not sure what is preventing them from using the EPG data TVNZ >> > transmits now though. >> >> Their STBs use more than just the DVB EIT data to work. > > > But does it need to or is it just due to the way they've currently > implemented it? I mean I can't see anything in the Sky EPG that isn't > available in the EIT data (though I haven't looked closely), so presuma= bly > they could implement their EPG using just the EIT data and if they did > that > they could use TVNZ's transmission as the source for TVNZ6 and 7. Hence their requirement for a firmware upgrade? Steve -------------------------------------------- Steven Ellis - Technical Director OpenMedia Limited - The Home of myPVR email - steven@openmedia.co.nz sales - sales@openmedia.co.nz support - support@openmedia.co.nz website - http://www.openmedia.co.nz From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 11 03:56:25 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Rama Madhusudhan) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 14:56:25 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] Re: Lirc setup Message-ID: <46E603D9.7070207@orcon.net.nz> Hi folks, Thanks for all your advice. I have my setup my remote and works great. Thanks for pointing out that I did not need to compile lirc from source. My mistakes was that I did not instruct the kernel to free the serial port correctly. One minor hiccup: the lirc daemon does not start properly on bootup eventhough I have set it to do so. I am having to manually restart it via the command line using sudo /etc/init.d/lirc or something resembling this. Any advise? Thanks again Rama From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 11 04:50:16 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Steve Hodge) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:50:16 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] Sky viewers may get new TVNZ channels after all .... In-Reply-To: <50806.203.163.71.197.1189477586.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.no-ip.org> References: <9DE18B442FF249A98BA831A69815FDE5@office.orcon.net.nz> <1189468097.11113.119.camel@mordecai2.bcsystems.co.nz.> <24b589d90709101658g20079632qec963e8554cb4db7@mail.gmail.com> <45299.203.163.71.197.1189469739.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.no-ip.org> <24b589d90709101857l7f236335mf2c9b441ebbd2bcc@mail.gmail.com> <50806.203.163.71.197.1189477586.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.no-ip.org> Message-ID: <24b589d90709102050s585a5b7fyd61f3de373b940c0@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_11092_30454093.1189482616571 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 9/11/07, Steven Ellis wrote: > > On Tue, September 11, 2007 1:57 pm, Steve Hodge wrote: > > On 9/11/07, Steven Ellis wrote: > >> > >> On Tue, September 11, 2007 11:58 am, Steve Hodge wrote: > >> > I'm not sure what is preventing them from using the EPG data TVNZ > >> > transmits now though. > >> > >> Their STBs use more than just the DVB EIT data to work. > > > > > > But does it need to or is it just due to the way they've currently > > implemented it? I mean I can't see anything in the Sky EPG that isn't > > available in the EIT data (though I haven't looked closely), so > presumably > > they could implement their EPG using just the EIT data and if they did > > that > > they could use TVNZ's transmission as the source for TVNZ6 and 7. > > Hence their requirement for a firmware upgrade? Could be, but the article seems to be talking about switching between a Freeview mode and a Sky mode ("devices that could toggle between operating as Freeview free- to-air boxes and Sky boxes"). That sounds rather less integrated, and probably wouldn't work well for MySky. Cheers, Steve ------=_Part_11092_30454093.1189482616571 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 9/11/07, Steven Ellis <steven@openmedia.co.nz> wrote:
On Tue, September 11, 2007 1:57 pm, Steve Hodge wrote:
> On 9/11/07, Steven Ellis <steven@openmedia.co.nz> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, September 11, 2007 11:58 am, Steve Hodge wrote:
>> > I'm not sure what is preventing them from using the EPG data TVNZ
>> > transmits now though.
>>
>> Their STBs use more than just the DVB EIT data to work.
>
>
> But does it need to or is it just due to the way they've currently
> implemented it? I mean I can't see anything in the Sky EPG that isn't
> available in the EIT data (though I haven't looked closely), so presumably
> they could implement their EPG using just the EIT data and if they did
> that
> they could use TVNZ's transmission as the source for TVNZ6 and 7.

Hence their requirement for a firmware upgrade?

Could be, but the article seems to be talking about switching between a Freeview mode and a Sky mode ("devices that could toggle between operating as Freeview free- to-air boxes and Sky boxes"). That sounds rather less integrated, and probably wouldn't work well for MySky.

Cheers,
Steve


------=_Part_11092_30454093.1189482616571-- From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 11 05:19:25 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Steven Ellis) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:19:25 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [mythtvnz] Sky viewers may get new TVNZ channels after all .... In-Reply-To: <24b589d90709102050s585a5b7fyd61f3de373b940c0@mail.gmail.com> References: <9DE18B442FF249A98BA831A69815FDE5@office.orcon.net.nz> <1189468097.11113.119.camel@mordecai2.bcsystems.co.nz.> <24b589d90709101658g20079632qec963e8554cb4db7@mail.gmail.com> <45299.203.163.71.197.1189469739.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.no-ip.org> <24b589d90709101857l7f236335mf2c9b441ebbd2bcc@mail.gmail.com> <50806.203.163.71.197.1189477586.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.no-ip.org> <24b589d90709102050s585a5b7fyd61f3de373b940c0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <50047.203.163.71.197.1189484365.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinux.net> On Tue, September 11, 2007 3:50 pm, Steve Hodge wrote: > On 9/11/07, Steven Ellis wrote: >> >> On Tue, September 11, 2007 1:57 pm, Steve Hodge wrote: >> > On 9/11/07, Steven Ellis wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tue, September 11, 2007 11:58 am, Steve Hodge wrote: >> >> > I'm not sure what is preventing them from using the EPG data TVNZ >> >> > transmits now though. >> >> >> >> Their STBs use more than just the DVB EIT data to work. >> > >> > >> > But does it need to or is it just due to the way they've currently >> > implemented it? I mean I can't see anything in the Sky EPG that isn'= t >> > available in the EIT data (though I haven't looked closely), so >> presumably >> > they could implement their EPG using just the EIT data and if they d= id >> > that >> > they could use TVNZ's transmission as the source for TVNZ6 and 7. >> >> Hence their requirement for a firmware upgrade? > > > Could be, but the article seems to be talking about switching between a > Freeview mode and a Sky mode ("devices that could toggle between operat= ing > as Freeview free- to-air boxes and Sky boxes"). That sounds rather less > integrated, and probably wouldn't work well for MySky. > Or all of this might just be some posturing by Sky. Also MySky is going to be a problem anyway as it does use more than just the EIT data for programming. Steve -------------------------------------------- Steven Ellis - Technical Director OpenMedia Limited - The Home of myPVR email - steven@openmedia.co.nz sales - sales@openmedia.co.nz support - support@openmedia.co.nz website - http://www.openmedia.co.nz From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 11 05:33:02 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Steve Hodge) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:33:02 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] Sky viewers may get new TVNZ channels after all .... In-Reply-To: <50047.203.163.71.197.1189484365.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinux.net> References: <9DE18B442FF249A98BA831A69815FDE5@office.orcon.net.nz> <1189468097.11113.119.camel@mordecai2.bcsystems.co.nz.> <24b589d90709101658g20079632qec963e8554cb4db7@mail.gmail.com> <45299.203.163.71.197.1189469739.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.no-ip.org> <24b589d90709101857l7f236335mf2c9b441ebbd2bcc@mail.gmail.com> <50806.203.163.71.197.1189477586.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.no-ip.org> <24b589d90709102050s585a5b7fyd61f3de373b940c0@mail.gmail.com> <50047.203.163.71.197.1189484365.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinux.net> Message-ID: <24b589d90709102133y40d03ef1t8e03da3946fede4e@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_11216_9513220.1189485182078 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 9/11/07, Steven Ellis wrote: > > Or all of this might just be some posturing by Sky. There does seem to be a lot of posturing involved, but I'm not sure Sky is the worst offender. Up until now TVNZ has maintained that they won't let Sky rebroadcast the new channels, now Sky is pointing out that they don't actually need to. In response TVNZ are invoking the government as some sort of bogyman that will become enraged if Sky go ahead and tune their boxes for the new Freeview channels. To me it looks like TVNZ's position is flimsy - there's no difference between what a Sky box does and what a Freeview box does (or at least there doesn't need to be a difference) so there is no way for TVNZ to stop Sky boxes receiving the content short of dropping, encrypting, or otherwise obfuscating the EIT data. Cheers, Steve ------=_Part_11216_9513220.1189485182078 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 9/11/07, Steven Ellis <steven@openmedia.co.nz> wrote:
Or all of this might just be some posturing by Sky.

There does seem to be a lot of posturing involved, but I'm not sure Sky is the worst offender. Up until now TVNZ has maintained that they won't let Sky rebroadcast the new channels, now Sky is pointing out that they don't actually need to. In response TVNZ are invoking the government as some sort of bogyman that will become enraged if Sky go ahead and tune their boxes for the new Freeview channels. To me it looks like TVNZ's position is flimsy - there's no difference between what a Sky box does and what a Freeview box does (or at least there doesn't need to be a difference) so there is no way for TVNZ to stop Sky boxes receiving the content short of dropping, encrypting, or otherwise obfuscating the EIT data.

Cheers,
Steve

------=_Part_11216_9513220.1189485182078-- From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 11 05:33:57 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Craig Whitmore) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:33:57 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] Sky viewers may get new TVNZ channels after all .... In-Reply-To: <50047.203.163.71.197.1189484365.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinux.net> References: <9DE18B442FF249A98BA831A69815FDE5@office.orcon.net.nz> <1189468097.11113.119.camel@mordecai2.bcsystems.co.nz.> <24b589d90709101658g20079632qec963e8554cb4db7@mail.gmail.com> <45299.203.163.71.197.1189469739.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.no-ip.org> <24b589d90709101857l7f236335mf2c9b441ebbd2bcc@mail.gmail.com> <50806.203.163.71.197.1189477586.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.no-ip.org> <24b589d90709102050s585a5b7fyd61f3de373b940c0@mail.gmail.com> <50047.203.163.71.197.1189484365.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinux.net> Message-ID: <01b001c7f42c$f81c2180$e8546480$@net.nz> > > Could be, but the article seems to be talking about switching between a > Freeview mode and a Sky mode ("devices that could toggle between operating > as Freeview free- to-air boxes and Sky boxes"). That sounds rather less > integrated, and probably wouldn't work well for MySky. > So whats the difference between a SKY box and a Freeview Box? As Sky at the moment can (and does) pick up unencrypted channels off the same sat as Freeview so adding the freeview channels and playing them on the existing Sky box is (100%) technically possible. (If sky choose to). I presume to be treated as a "freeview" box (and legally have the rights to do it) the user has to have the ability to choose any freq/symbol rate etc which is just as they say a "software upgrade" instead of the locked in channels at the moment. Thanks From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 11 07:42:50 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Phil Bertram) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 18:42:50 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] Re: Lirc setup In-Reply-To: <46E603D9.7070207@orcon.net.nz> References: <46E603D9.7070207@orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: <200709111842.50522.phil.bertram@clear.net.nz> On Tuesday 11 September 2007 2:56 pm, Rama Madhusudhan wrote: > Hi folks, > Thanks for all your advice. I have my setup my remote and works great. > Thanks for pointing out that I did not need to compile lirc from > source. My mistakes was > that I did not instruct the kernel to free the serial port correctly. > > One minor hiccup: the lirc daemon does not start properly on bootup > eventhough I have set it to do so. I am having to manually restart it > via the command line using sudo /etc/init.d/lirc or something resembling > this. Any advise? You may need a link to the runlevel directory. My system boots into runlevel 2 so /etc/rc2.d/S30lirc should be a link to /etc/init.d/lirc If you lirc installed it as a package this should already done. Otherwise look closly at the config files. On my deb system, the config files are in /etc/lirc > > Thanks again > Rama > > _______________________________________________ > mythtvnz mailing list > mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz > http://lists.ourshack.com/mailman/listinfo/mythtvnz > Archives http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/mythtvnz/ From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 11 08:05:38 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Steve Hodge) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 19:05:38 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] Sky viewers may get new TVNZ channels after all .... In-Reply-To: <01b001c7f42c$f81c2180$e8546480$@net.nz> References: <9DE18B442FF249A98BA831A69815FDE5@office.orcon.net.nz> <1189468097.11113.119.camel@mordecai2.bcsystems.co.nz.> <24b589d90709101658g20079632qec963e8554cb4db7@mail.gmail.com> <45299.203.163.71.197.1189469739.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.no-ip.org> <24b589d90709101857l7f236335mf2c9b441ebbd2bcc@mail.gmail.com> <50806.203.163.71.197.1189477586.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.no-ip.org> <24b589d90709102050s585a5b7fyd61f3de373b940c0@mail.gmail.com> <50047.203.163.71.197.1189484365.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinux.net> <01b001c7f42c$f81c2180$e8546480$@net.nz> Message-ID: <24b589d90709110005k55d61553gdb5436ff92f4a445@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_11727_4381727.1189494338990 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 9/11/07, Craig Whitmore wrote: > I presume to be > treated as a "freeview" box (and legally have the rights to do it) the > user > has to have the ability to choose any freq/symbol rate etc which is just > as > they say a "software upgrade" instead of the locked in channels at the > moment. > My Sky decoder has a section in the setup that lets you define a new satelitte that includes freq etc already. I haven't tried to get Freeview with it because I'm sure it is locked to Sky's network id, but the basic tuning capabilities appear to already be in the firmware. To be branded as a Freeview box (i.e. use trademarked logo) you have to fullfill certain requirements. I doubt they'd let Sky do that even if the box qualified. However there is nothing legally stopping anyone receiving Freeview broadcasts using whatever hardware they like and I doubt there is anything stopping someone advertising their hardware as capable of receiving Freeview provided they don't infringe any trademarks. Cheers, Steve ------=_Part_11727_4381727.1189494338990 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 9/11/07, Craig Whitmore <lennon@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
I presume to be
treated as a "freeview" box (and legally have the rights to do it) the user
has to have the ability to choose any freq/symbol rate etc  which is just as
they say a "software upgrade" instead of the locked in channels at the
moment.

My Sky decoder has a section in the setup that lets you define a new satelitte that includes freq etc already. I haven't tried to get Freeview with it because I'm sure it is locked to Sky's network id, but the basic tuning capabilities appear to already be in the firmware.

To be branded as a Freeview box (i.e. use trademarked logo) you have to fullfill certain requirements. I doubt they'd let Sky do that even if the box qualified. However there is nothing legally stopping anyone receiving Freeview broadcasts using whatever hardware they like and I doubt there is anything stopping someone advertising their hardware as capable of receiving Freeview provided they don't infringe any trademarks.

Cheers,
Steve
------=_Part_11727_4381727.1189494338990-- From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Wed Sep 12 11:18:49 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (yuri) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:18:49 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] BVN (Dutch) @ B3 and Hello In-Reply-To: <51d84c760709101437oef8d7e3v38944c1e5e83a7fd@mail.gmail.com> References: <51d84c760709101437oef8d7e3v38944c1e5e83a7fd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 11/09/2007, Johan Schuld wrote: > So just in case there are more dutchies hanging around here, have a > look at : http://www.reinalda.net/software.html. If you are > able to use it, send the guy an e-mail as I'm sure likes hearing his SW is > used. Dank je wel. Ik zal even kijken. Yuri de Groot From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Sat Sep 15 11:42:52 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Jonathan Guthrie) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 22:42:52 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] Mythbackend stability Message-ID: <25A0D44F-B8F2-483D-A82C-4E4F72CCD489@gmail.com> Hiya I'm using MythDora 4.0, and recently the backend has been remarkably unstable! ('Unable to connect to the master backend" is common) Can anyone point me to a good troubleshooting resource for Mythdora? Thanks Jono // --------------------------------------------------------- /* Jonathan Guthrie xServe Ltd, Wellington NZ jono@xserve.co.nz | http://xserve.co.nz DDI +64 4 978 7388 | Mob +64 21 678890 */ // --------------------------------------------------------- From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 18 02:25:10 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Graeme Woollett) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 13:25:10 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] EPG broken Message-ID: <46EF28F6.9060308@irl.cri.nz> Hello I have been using the following script to get epg data for my mythtv box for months and it now appears to be broken. I've also tried downloading Hads listings, the result is the same My epg database only has two days left. wget http://hairy.geek.nz/epg/latest.xml.gz gunzip latest.xml.gz mythfilldatabase --file 1 7 latest.xml help... This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 18 02:58:12 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Steve Hodge) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 13:58:12 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] EPG broken In-Reply-To: <46EF28F6.9060308@irl.cri.nz> References: <46EF28F6.9060308@irl.cri.nz> Message-ID: <24b589d90709171858n4a83a18dy8c08a42dd7c97914@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_14192_26705834.1190080692333 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 9/18/07, Graeme Woollett wrote: > > Hello > I have been using the following script to get epg data for my mythtv box > for months and it now appears to be broken. What is going wrong? Is it failing to download the file? Are you getting an error from mythfilldatabase? Cheers, Steve ------=_Part_14192_26705834.1190080692333 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 9/18/07, Graeme Woollett <g.woollett@irl.cri.nz> wrote:
Hello
I have been using the following script to get epg data for my mythtv box for months and it now appears to be broken.

What is going wrong? Is it failing to download the file? Are you getting an error from mythfilldatabase?
 
Cheers,
Steve

------=_Part_14192_26705834.1190080692333-- From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 18 02:58:42 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Steven Ellis) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 13:58:42 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [mythtvnz] Time to rescan for TVNZ6 and Triangle Stratos Message-ID: <22107.203.163.71.197.1190080722.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinux.net> There are now active PIDs, and associated EPG data for these two channels= .. TVNZ6 is on 12483H on SID 1904 as expected Stratos is on 12456H on SID 1922 Also watch out as there is a chance Parliament TV will appear on 12456H o= n SID 1923. Appeared yesterday and then dropped off. Steve -------------------------------------------- Steven Ellis - Technical Director OpenMedia Limited - The Home of myPVR email - steven@openmedia.co.nz sales - sales@openmedia.co.nz support - support@openmedia.co.nz website - http://www.openmedia.co.nz From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 18 03:03:48 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Simon Green) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 14:03:48 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] EPG broken In-Reply-To: <24b589d90709171858n4a83a18dy8c08a42dd7c97914@mail.gmail.com> References: <46EF28F6.9060308@irl.cri.nz> <24b589d90709171858n4a83a18dy8c08a42dd7c97914@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I'n using the nice feed, and am noticing the same thing. Looking at the website the file was last updated on September 13th, which would indicate a problem that their end. Maybe the new file isn't been uploaded to the web site Keep up the good work guys :-) -- simon On 18/09/2007, Steve Hodge wrote: > On 9/18/07, Graeme Woollett wrote: > > Hello > > I have been using the following script to get epg data for my mythtv box > for months and it now appears to be broken. > > What is going wrong? Is it failing to download the file? Are you getting an > error from mythfilldatabase? > Cheers, > Steve > > From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 18 03:10:56 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Hadley Rich) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 14:10:56 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] EPG broken In-Reply-To: References: <46EF28F6.9060308@irl.cri.nz> <24b589d90709171858n4a83a18dy8c08a42dd7c97914@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200709181410.57073.hads@nice.net.nz> On Tuesday 18 September 2007 14:03:48 Simon Green wrote: > I'n using the nice feed, and am noticing the same thing. Looking at > the website the file was last updated on September 13th, which would > indicate a problem that their end. Maybe the new file isn't been > uploaded to the web site Hmm, good spotting. The cron job for the old listings seems to have failed silently. I've just run it manually so it should be up to date now and I'll check out why it hasn't been running. The OP was using hairy which doesn't look broken at all so that shouldn't be an issue there. > Keep up the good work guys :-) :) -- http://nicegear.co.nz New Zealand's VoIP supplier From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 18 03:17:46 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Hadley Rich) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 14:17:46 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] New Sky channel Message-ID: <200709181417.46878.hads@nice.net.nz> Hey all, Just letting you know that I added the new Sky channel to the listings-sky feed the other day. It was in the channels.conf already but was showing up as MySky preview since they must have reused that PID. If you're using tv_grab_nz-py just add; channel=crime-investigation.sky.co.nz to the grabber config in ~/.mythtv/ and it will get added to the database. You'll then need to add the channel number in mythtv-setup. hads -- http://nicegear.co.nz New Zealand's VoIP supplier From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 18 04:25:34 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Steve Hodge) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:25:34 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] New Sky channel In-Reply-To: <200709181417.46878.hads@nice.net.nz> References: <200709181417.46878.hads@nice.net.nz> Message-ID: <24b589d90709172025p2388339fl89258be5f9b5a7de@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_14511_28187871.1190085934898 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 9/18/07, Hadley Rich wrote: > > Hey all, > > Just letting you know that I added the new Sky channel to the listings-sky > feed the other day. It was in the channels.conf already but was showing up > as > MySky preview since they must have reused that PID. Thanks for the heads up Hads. Cheers, Steve ------=_Part_14511_28187871.1190085934898 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 9/18/07, Hadley Rich <hads@nice.net.nz> wrote:
Hey all,

Just letting you know that I added the new Sky channel to the listings-sky
feed the other day. It was in the channels.conf already but was showing up as
MySky preview since they must have reused that PID.

Thanks for the heads up Hads.

Cheers,
Steve


------=_Part_14511_28187871.1190085934898-- From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 18 04:26:46 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Steve Hodge) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:26:46 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] Time to rescan for TVNZ6 and Triangle Stratos In-Reply-To: <22107.203.163.71.197.1190080722.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinux.net> References: <22107.203.163.71.197.1190080722.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinux.net> Message-ID: <24b589d90709172026w662a3f84k25da3891a4afe6ce@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_14527_13015354.1190086006031 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 9/18/07, Steven Ellis wrote: > > There are now active PIDs, and associated EPG data for these two > channels.. > > TVNZ6 is on 12483H on SID 1904 as expected > > Stratos is on 12456H on SID 1922 > > Also watch out as there is a chance Parliament TV will appear on 12456H on > SID 1923. Appeared yesterday and then dropped off. Thanks for keeping an eye on this, Steve. Btw, have you looked at the bitrates Freeview and Sky use (for One and 2)? Is there much difference? Cheers, Steve ------=_Part_14527_13015354.1190086006031 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 9/18/07, Steven Ellis <steven@openmedia.co.nz> wrote:
There are now active PIDs, and associated EPG data for these two channels..

TVNZ6 is on 12483H on SID 1904 as expected

Stratos is on 12456H on SID 1922

Also watch out as there is a chance Parliament TV will appear on 12456H on
SID 1923. Appeared yesterday and then dropped off.

Thanks for keeping an eye on this, Steve.

Btw, have you looked at the bitrates Freeview and Sky use (for One and 2)? Is there much difference?

Cheers,
Steve


------=_Part_14527_13015354.1190086006031-- From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 18 04:54:20 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Robin Gilks) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:54:20 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [mythtvnz] OT: composite and audio over cat5e cable [resent] Message-ID: <57369.202.37.96.11.1190087660.squirrel@gilks.ath.cx> Greetings I'm looking for cheap solutions for extending TV/DVD outputs to several rooms from a central receiver. I've already discounted RF coax (bad quality) and dedicated component cables (too expensive) but the cat5 'extenders' I've seen on the 'net seem to be excessively priced for a relatively straightforward job of matching 75ohm video to 600ohm balanced cable and back. Does anyone have any simple DIY circuit details that could be pressed into service for this task? (presumably using differential drivers of some sort). Either that or a single source/multiple destination distribution 'extender' at a sensible price? Eventually the house will have dedicated mythfrontends distributed about but costs must be kept under control for now!! Cheers -- Robin Gilks From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 18 04:57:59 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Steven Ellis) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:57:59 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [mythtvnz] Time to rescan for TVNZ6 and Triangle Stratos In-Reply-To: <24b589d90709172026w662a3f84k25da3891a4afe6ce@mail.gmail.com> References: <22107.203.163.71.197.1190080722.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinux.net> <24b589d90709172026w662a3f84k25da3891a4afe6ce@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <24143.203.163.71.197.1190087879.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinux.net> On Tue, September 18, 2007 3:26 pm, Steve Hodge wrote: > On 9/18/07, Steven Ellis wrote: >> >> There are now active PIDs, and associated EPG data for these two >> channels.. >> >> TVNZ6 is on 12483H on SID 1904 as expected >> >> Stratos is on 12456H on SID 1922 >> >> Also watch out as there is a chance Parliament TV will appear on 12456= H >> on >> SID 1923. Appeared yesterday and then dropped off. > > > Thanks for keeping an eye on this, Steve. > > Btw, have you looked at the bitrates Freeview and Sky use (for One and = 2)? > Is there much difference? Huge.. and I do mean huge.. Doing a dvbsnoop of the bitrates on 12483H I get ## PID: 512 (0x0200) bad/total packets: 0/1002 (=3D 0.0%) Avrg:=20 5143.372 kbit/s ## PID: 513 (0x0201) bad/total packets: 0/1001 (=3D 0.0%) Avrg:=20 1531.540 kbit/s ## PID: 514 (0x0202) bad/total packets: 0/1000 (=3D 0.0%) Avrg:=20 1533.129 kbit/s ## PID: 515 (0x0203) bad/total packets: 0/1004 (=3D 0.0%) Avrg:=20 3952.921 kbit/s ## PID: 516 (0x0204) bad/total packets: 0/1005 (=3D 0.0%) Avrg:=20 8588.182 kbit/s ## PID: 517 (0x0205) bad/total packets: 0/1000 (=3D 0.0%) Avrg:=20 1531.568 kbit/s ## PID: 519 (0x0207) bad/total packets: 0/1000 (=3D 0.0%) Avrg:=20 1533.129 kbit/s ## PID: 520 (0x0208) bad/total packets: 0/1002 (=3D 0.0%) Avrg:=20 2256.000 kbit/s Now the channels map as follows 0x200 =3D TVNZ6 0x202 =3D Maori 0x203 =3D TV One 0x204 =3D TV 2 0x208 =3D sport extra Looking at the Sky feeds ## PID: 1004 (0x03ec) bad/total packets: 0/103 (=3D 0.0%) Avrg:=20 2383.262 kbit/s ## PID: 1005 (0x03ed) bad/total packets: 0/104 (=3D 0.0%) Avrg:=20 3637.581 kbit/s 0x3ec =3D TV One 0x3ed =3D TV 2 Steve -------------------------------------------- Steven Ellis - Technical Director OpenMedia Limited - The Home of myPVR email - steven@openmedia.co.nz sales - sales@openmedia.co.nz support - support@openmedia.co.nz website - http://www.openmedia.co.nz From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 18 05:05:13 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Steven Ellis) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:05:13 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [mythtvnz] New Sky channel In-Reply-To: <24b589d90709172025p2388339fl89258be5f9b5a7de@mail.gmail.com> References: <200709181417.46878.hads@nice.net.nz> <24b589d90709172025p2388339fl89258be5f9b5a7de@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <27819.203.163.71.197.1190088313.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinux.net> On Tue, September 18, 2007 3:25 pm, Steve Hodge wrote: > On 9/18/07, Hadley Rich wrote: >> >> Hey all, >> >> Just letting you know that I added the new Sky channel to the >> listings-sky >> feed the other day. It was in the channels.conf already but was showin= g >> up >> as >> MySky preview since they must have reused that PID. > > > Thanks for the heads up Hads. FYI Hads - Vibe is in the EPG feed now as well on 12581H, SID =3D 1041 Launches on 1st October. Some dumb muppet updated Wikipedia to say the channel would be FTA on freeview. Steve -------------------------------------------- Steven Ellis - Technical Director OpenMedia Limited - The Home of myPVR email - steven@openmedia.co.nz sales - sales@openmedia.co.nz support - support@openmedia.co.nz website - http://www.openmedia.co.nz From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 18 05:29:07 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Guy Lowe) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:29:07 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] Time to rescan for TVNZ6 and Triangle Stratos In-Reply-To: <22107.203.163.71.197.1190080722.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinux.net> References: <22107.203.163.71.197.1190080722.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinux.net> Message-ID: <46EF5413.3090407@gunk.gen.nz> Steven Ellis wrote: > There are now active PIDs, and associated EPG data for these two channels.. > > TVNZ6 is on 12483H on SID 1904 as expected > > Stratos is on 12456H on SID 1922 > > Also watch out as there is a chance Parliament TV will appear on 12456H on > SID 1923. Appeared yesterday and then dropped off. > > Steve > > -------------------------------------------- > Steven Ellis - Technical Director > OpenMedia Limited - The Home of myPVR > email - steven@openmedia.co.nz > sales - sales@openmedia.co.nz > support - support@openmedia.co.nz > website - http://www.openmedia.co.nz > > _______________________________________________ > mythtvnz mailing list > mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz > http://lists.ourshack.com/mailman/listinfo/mythtvnz > Archives http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/mythtvnz/ Is this a good time to ask if anyone's managed to solve possible conflicts between overnight recordings and epgsnoop? It doesn't look as though tv_grab_nz-py is going to cut it any more. Guy From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 18 05:43:38 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Shannon Skinner) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:43:38 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] New Sky channel In-Reply-To: <27819.203.163.71.197.1190088313.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinux.net> References: <200709181417.46878.hads@nice.net.nz> <24b589d90709172025p2388339fl89258be5f9b5a7de@mail.gmail.com> <27819.203.163.71.197.1190088313.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinux.net> Message-ID: > Some dumb muppet updated Wikipedia to say the channel would be FTA on > freeview. Sounds like the work of Dr. Bunsen Honeydew! ;) From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 18 05:44:37 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Hadley Rich) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:44:37 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] New Sky channel In-Reply-To: <27819.203.163.71.197.1190088313.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinux.net> References: <200709181417.46878.hads@nice.net.nz> <24b589d90709172025p2388339fl89258be5f9b5a7de@mail.gmail.com> <27819.203.163.71.197.1190088313.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinux.net> Message-ID: <200709181644.37083.hads@nice.net.nz> On Tuesday 18 September 2007 16:05:13 Steven Ellis wrote: > FYI Hads - Vibe is in the EPG feed now as well on 12581H, SID = 1041 > > Launches on 1st October. Thanks Steve, I've added it now. Channel number 7 for those that are adding it. While I was adding it, I noticed the xmltvid for Alt TV was wrong - it didn't have .sky.co.nz on the end of it like all the others. I've changed it now so anyone who is using the listings-sky file will need to run; UPDATE channel SET xmltvid = 'alttv.sky.co.nz' WHERE xmltvid = 'alttv.co.nz'; To fix their database. Sorry about that all but I figured now was better than later. I've checked that none of the others are like that. There's an updated snapshot of epgsnoop here for anyone that is interested. Not a lot has changed. http://nice.net.nz/scripts/epgsnoop-snapshot-13.tar.gz hads > Some dumb muppet updated Wikipedia to say the channel would be FTA on > freeview. -- http://nicegear.co.nz New Zealand's VoIP supplier From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 18 05:45:46 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Hadley Rich) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:45:46 +1200 Subject: tv_grab_nz-py (no longer Re: [mythtvnz] Time to rescan for TVNZ6 and Triangle Stratos) Message-ID: <200709181645.46938.hads@nice.net.nz> On Tuesday 18 September 2007 16:29:07 Guy Lowe wrote: > Is this a good time to ask if anyone's managed to solve possible > conflicts between overnight recordings and epgsnoop? It doesn't look as > though tv_grab_nz-py is going to cut it any more. How is tv_grab_nz-py not cutting it? Do you just mean you would rather not download the listings from the net (or a local httpd)? Or is there something wrong with tv_grab_nz-py? hads -- http://nicegear.co.nz New Zealand's VoIP supplier From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 18 05:55:51 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Guy Lowe) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:55:51 +1200 Subject: tv_grab_nz-py (no longer Re: [mythtvnz] Time to rescan for TVNZ6 and Triangle Stratos) In-Reply-To: <200709181645.46938.hads@nice.net.nz> References: <200709181645.46938.hads@nice.net.nz> Message-ID: <46EF5A57.6080103@gunk.gen.nz> Hadley Rich wrote: > On Tuesday 18 September 2007 16:29:07 Guy Lowe wrote: >> Is this a good time to ask if anyone's managed to solve possible >> conflicts between overnight recordings and epgsnoop? It doesn't look as >> though tv_grab_nz-py is going to cut it any more. > > How is tv_grab_nz-py not cutting it? Do you just mean you would rather not > download the listings from the net (or a local httpd)? Or is there something > wrong with tv_grab_nz-py? > > hads > tv_grab_nz-py is sky channels only, no? Or am I missing something? Guy From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 18 04:57:20 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Wade Maxfield) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:57:20 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] New Sky channel In-Reply-To: <200709181417.46878.hads@nice.net.nz> References: <200709181417.46878.hads@nice.net.nz> Message-ID: >Hey all, > >Just letting you know that I added the new Sky channel to the listings-sky >feed the other day. It was in the channels.conf already but was showing up as >MySky preview since they must have reused that PID. > >If you're using tv_grab_nz-py just add; > >channel=crime-investigation.sky.co.nz > >to the grabber config in ~/.mythtv/ and it will get added to the database. >You'll then need to add the channel number in mythtv-setup. > >hads > What was the PID? (For those of us using epgsnoop...) - Wade From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 18 06:11:02 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Steven Ellis) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 17:11:02 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [mythtvnz] New Sky channel In-Reply-To: References: <200709181417.46878.hads@nice.net.nz> Message-ID: <57589.203.163.71.197.1190092262.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinux.net> On Tue, September 18, 2007 3:57 pm, Wade Maxfield wrote: >>Hey all, >> >>Just letting you know that I added the new Sky channel to the >> listings-sky >>feed the other day. It was in the channels.conf already but was showing >> up as >>MySky preview since they must have reused that PID. >> >>If you're using tv_grab_nz-py just add; >> >>channel=3Dcrime-investigation.sky.co.nz >> >>to the grabber config in ~/.mythtv/ and it will get added to the >> database. >>You'll then need to add the channel number in mythtv-setup. >> >>hads >> > > What was the PID? (For those of us using epgsnoop...) 1049 Steve -------------------------------------------- Steven Ellis - Technical Director OpenMedia Limited - The Home of myPVR email - steven@openmedia.co.nz sales - sales@openmedia.co.nz support - support@openmedia.co.nz website - http://www.openmedia.co.nz From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 18 06:15:39 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Hadley Rich) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 17:15:39 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] New Sky channel In-Reply-To: References: <200709181417.46878.hads@nice.net.nz> Message-ID: <200709181715.39358.hads@nice.net.nz> On Tuesday 18 September 2007 15:57:20 Wade Maxfield wrote: > What was the PID? (For those of us using epgsnoop...) It's 1049 The channels.conf should be up to date in the latest epgsnoop snapshot if you need any of the other PIDs etc. hads -- http://nicegear.co.nz New Zealand's VoIP supplier From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 18 06:42:35 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Hadley Rich) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 17:42:35 +1200 Subject: tv_grab_nz-py (no longer Re: [mythtvnz] Time to rescan for TVNZ6 and Triangle Stratos) In-Reply-To: <46EF5A57.6080103@gunk.gen.nz> References: <200709181645.46938.hads@nice.net.nz> <46EF5A57.6080103@gunk.gen.nz> Message-ID: <200709181742.35886.hads@nice.net.nz> On Tuesday 18 September 2007 16:55:51 Guy Lowe wrote: > tv_grab_nz-py is sky channels only, no? Or am I missing something? Actually it's just a grabber, it will happily grab and output anything you feed into it. It just so happens that the default feed it fetches from is the listings-sky feed (which does include 1, 2, 3 and 4 BTW). None of the feeds currently have info for the other freeview channels, it's something that I've been meaning to look into but paid work gets first dibs. hads -- http://nicegear.co.nz New Zealand's VoIP supplier From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 18 07:20:33 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Wade Maxfield) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 18:20:33 +1200 Subject: tv_grab_nz-py (no longer Re: [mythtvnz] Time to rescan for TVNZ6 and Triangle Stratos) In-Reply-To: <200709181742.35886.hads@nice.net.nz> References: <200709181645.46938.hads@nice.net.nz> <46EF5A57.6080103@gunk.gen.nz> <200709181742.35886.hads@nice.net.nz> Message-ID: >On Tuesday 18 September 2007 16:55:51 Guy Lowe wrote: >> tv_grab_nz-py is sky channels only, no? Or am I missing something? > >Actually it's just a grabber, it will happily grab and output anything you >feed into it. It just so happens that the default feed it fetches from is the >listings-sky feed (which does include 1, 2, 3 and 4 BTW). > >None of the feeds currently have info for the other freeview channels, it's >something that I've been meaning to look into but paid work gets first dibs. > >hads The feed at epg.hotblack.co.nz has the sky channels + TVNZ6, SportExtra and Stratos in the interim. Hads, I've just used tv_split and tv_cat to grab the freeview listings and merge it with the Sky based listings before uploading. It's a pain in the butt to update the script every time they release a new channel, but it's not too complex. 8) - Wade From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 18 07:21:44 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Wade Maxfield) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 18:21:44 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] New Sky channel In-Reply-To: <200709181715.39358.hads@nice.net.nz> References: <200709181417.46878.hads@nice.net.nz> <200709181715.39358.hads@nice.net.nz> Message-ID: >On Tuesday 18 September 2007 15:57:20 Wade Maxfield wrote: >> What was the PID? (For those of us using epgsnoop...) > >It's 1049 > >The channels.conf should be up to date in the latest epgsnoop snapshot if you >need any of the other PIDs etc. > >hads > Thanks Hads, (you too Steve) I'll check that against the channels.conf I've been modifying earlier today. - Wade From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 18 08:14:56 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (David Lowe) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 19:14:56 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] Hello from new member Message-ID: <000001c7f9c3$a2a63910$e7f2ab30$@co.nz> This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C7FA28.37DB1910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I've just built my first proper media centre. I've installed MythTV on Ubuntu feisty. It's been a fascinating project; probably easier than I expected. I've been playing with Linux for several years and finally plucked up the courage to do the job properly by buying some decent gear while I've been on holiday at home. Hardware: Asus M2NPV-VM Motherboard; CPU AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ CPU, 3.0GHz; 2Gb RAM, 80Gb SATA drive; Case: Silverstone SST-LC13 ATX Home Theatre Case. (Hard drive is a bit small already, but it was a spare I had lying around.) Tuner is a Hauppauge PVR 150. Most things are working. I've had a few dramas, but the solution each time has been annoyingly simple, even when it took several days to find. (Isn't that always the way?). I might need some help with the IR receiver and remote that came with the PVR Card. And if there is a good EPG somewhere, I'd love to get it (even if it meant forking out some money?) About me: 46 y/o, company exec, long-time interest in PC's (started Word processing & spread sheeting on a Commodore 64 some time in the early 80's and sent my first email in 1992) but fundamentally still a noob in the Linux world. Any other members around Rangiora or Christchurch? Cheers - David Lowe ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C7FA28.37DB1910 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello,

I’ve just built my first proper media centre. = I’ve installed MythTV on Ubuntu feisty. It’s been a fascinating = project; probably easier than I expected. I’ve been playing with Linux for = several years and finally plucked up the courage to do the job properly by = buying some decent gear while I’ve been on holiday at home.

 

Hardware: Asus M2NPV-VM Motherboard; CPU AMD Athlon = 64 X2 6000+ CPU, 3.0GHz; 2Gb RAM, 80Gb SATA drive; Case: Silverstone SST-LC13 = ATX Home Theatre Case. (Hard drive is a bit small already, but it was a = spare I had lying around.) Tuner is a Hauppauge PVR 150.

 

Most things are working… I’ve had a few = dramas, but the solution each time has been annoyingly simple, even when it took several days to find. (Isn’t that always the way?). I might need = some help with the IR receiver and remote that came with the PVR Card. And if = there is a good EPG somewhere, I’d love to get it (even if it meant = forking out some money?)

 

About me: 46 y/o, company exec, long-time interest = in PC’s (started Word processing & spread sheeting on a Commodore 64 some = time in the early 80’s and sent my first email in 1992) but fundamentally = still a noob in the Linux world.

 

Any other members around Rangiora or = Christchurch?

 

Cheers

 

-          David Lowe

------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C7FA28.37DB1910-- From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 18 08:38:35 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Simon Green) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 19:38:35 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] Help with Skystar 2 PCI card Message-ID: Hi guys, I'm trying to get my Skystar 2 PCI card going, and have about as much success as I did with the USB device. I'm running Ubuntu Feisty Fawn (64 bit), and have a Sky dish that was installed three months ago. I have the satellite cable plugged straight into the pci card (i.e. no splitter yet) This is the output from dvbtune: simon@mythbox:~$ dvbtune -f 1733000 -s 22500 -p h -m Using DVB card "ST STV0299 DVB-S" tuning DVB-S to L-Band:0, Pol:H Srate=22500000, 22kHz=off ERROR setting tone : Invalid argument polling.... Getting frontend event FE_STATUS: polling.... Getting frontend event FE_STATUS: FE_HAS_SIGNAL FE_HAS_CARRIER polling.... polling.... polling.... polling.... polling.... polling.... I get the same error when I use the frequency of 1183000. Does anyone have any ideas of what I am doing wrong? TIA -- simon From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 18 09:04:50 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Hadley Rich) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 20:04:50 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] Hello from new member In-Reply-To: <000001c7f9c3$a2a63910$e7f2ab30$@co.nz> References: <000001c7f9c3$a2a63910$e7f2ab30$@co.nz> Message-ID: <200709182004.50365.hads@nice.net.nz> On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 19:14:56 David Lowe wrote: > Hello, Hi, welcome. [snip] > And if there is a good EPG somewhere, > I'd love to get it (even if it meant forking out some money?) I think most people are either grabbing from epg.pvr.geek.nz (or one of the other copies) or using tv_grab_dvb/epgsnoop if they have a DVB-S card. If you're setting up a new system and haven't setup your channels yet I'd recommend using tv_grab_nz-py - it does make things easier. It will grab the feed for you using mythfilldatabase, filter out any you don't need etc. Feel free to post a note here if you need some instruction. [snip] > Any other members around Rangiora or Christchurch? I'm down the road in Timaru, there are some others in Chch. hads -- http://nicegear.co.nz New Zealand's VoIP Supplier From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 18 09:19:32 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (AlanP) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 20:19:32 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] Hello from new member In-Reply-To: <200709182004.50365.hads@nice.net.nz> References: <000001c7f9c3$a2a63910$e7f2ab30$@co.nz> <200709182004.50365.hads@nice.net.nz> Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.2.20070918201740.0297d0e0@pop.orcon.net.nz> At 08:04 p.m. 18/09/2007, you wrote: >If you're setting up a new system and haven't setup your channels yet I'd >recommend using tv_grab_nz-py - it does make things easier. It will grab the >feed for you using mythfilldatabase, filter out any you don't need etc. Feel >free to post a note here if you need some instruction. I wound up reinstalling knoppmyth after a upgrade mangled my database, and have found that leaving Myth on EIT scanning works well, since my two cards are tuned to the Freeview transponders. That, and with the skybox gone the dish isn't held to the one transponder, so epgsnoop doesn't grab the epg anymore, for some reason. >[snip] > > Any other members around Rangiora or Christchurch? >I'm down the road in Timaru, there are some others in Chch. Any Wanga-vegas residents? >hads -- Alan Podjursky ICQ 24423014 "Yay, evil evil! Happy torture!" -- Gwyneth "When in doubt, use brute force." -- Ken Thompson http://www.fanfiction.net/~mercva From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 18 08:26:38 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Robert Fisher) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 19:26:38 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] Hello from new member In-Reply-To: <000001c7f9c3$a2a63910$e7f2ab30$@co.nz> References: <000001c7f9c3$a2a63910$e7f2ab30$@co.nz> Message-ID: <200709181926.39154.robert@fisher.net.nz> On Tuesday 18 September 2007 7:14 pm, David Lowe wrote: > Any other members around Rangiora or Christchurch? > Several, including myself. Rob (in Parklands) From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 18 11:35:06 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Robin Gilks) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 22:35:06 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [mythtvnz] Hello from new member In-Reply-To: <000001c7f9c3$a2a63910$e7f2ab30$@co.nz> References: <000001c7f9c3$a2a63910$e7f2ab30$@co.nz> Message-ID: <43771.192.168.1.15.1190111706.squirrel@gilks.ath.cx> ------=_20070918223506_47202 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > Most things are working. I've had a few dramas, but the solution each time > has been annoyingly simple, even when it took several days to find. (Isn't > that always the way?). I might need some help with the IR receiver and > remote that came with the PVR Card. And if there is a good EPG somewhere, > I'd love to get it (even if it meant forking out some money?) The USB remote that comes with the pvr150 (assuming thats the version you have) is really easy to set up. You'll need to load the lirc_mceusb2 kernel module and I've attached suitable lirc.conf and .lircrc files that will drive MythTV quite nicely. I've included the sky remote codes and channel changer shell script in case you have a sky box that needs channel changing via an IR blaster. Not everyone maps the keys the same but I've used the same mappings as Steve on the OpenMedia site (except using Cancel as the 'd' key and Enter for F12 to get into the satellite mheg data). > Any other members around Rangiora or Christchurch? Another one - also out of town but in West Melton. -- Robin Gilks ------=_20070918223506_47202 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="lircd.conf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="lircd.conf" IwojIFJDLTYgY29uZmlnIGZpbGUKIwojIHNvdXJjZTogaHR0cDovL2hvbWUuaGNjbmV0Lm5sL20u bWFqb29yL3Byb2plY3RzX19yZW1vdGVfY29udHJvbC5odG0KIyAgICAgICAgIGh0dHA6Ly9ob21l LmhjY25ldC5ubC9tLm1ham9vci9wcm9udG8ucGRmCiMKIyB1c2VkIGJ5OiBQaGlsaXBzCiMKIyMj IyMjIyMjCiMKIyBQaGlsaXBzIE1lZGlhIENlbnRlciBFZGl0aW9uIHJlbW90ZSBjb250cm9sCiMg Rm9yIHVzZSB3aXRoIHRoZSBVU0IgTUNFIGlyIHJlY2VpdmVyCiMKIyBEYW4gQ29udGkgIGRjb250 aXxhY20ud3d1LmVkdQojCiMgUmFkaW8sIFByaW50LCBSZWNUViBhcmUgb25seSBhdmFpbGFibGUg b24gdGhlIEhQIE1lZGlhIENlbnRlciByZW1vdGUgY29udHJvbAojCgpiZWdpbiByZW1vdGUKCiAg bmFtZSBtY2V1c2IKICBiaXRzICAgICAgICAgICAxNgogIGZsYWdzIFJDNnxDT05TVF9MRU5HVEgK ICBlcHMgICAgICAgICAgICAzMAogIGFlcHMgICAgICAgICAgMTAwCgogIGhlYWRlciAgICAgICAy 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12:42:39 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Sam Hadley-Jones) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 23:42:39 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] Re: Help with Skystar 2 PCI card In-Reply-To: <20070918104002.68229.66944.Mailman@cat.ourshack.com> References: <20070918104002.68229.66944.Mailman@cat.ourshack.com> Message-ID: <1190115759.13318.6.camel@rambo> > Hi guys, > > I'm trying to get my Skystar 2 PCI card going, and have about as much > success as I did with the USB device. I'm running Ubuntu Feisty Fawn > (64 bit), and have a Sky dish that was installed three months ago. I > have the satellite cable plugged straight into the pci card (i.e. no > splitter yet) > > This is the output from dvbtune: > > simon@mythbox:~$ dvbtune -f 1733000 -s 22500 -p h -m > Using DVB card "ST STV0299 DVB-S" > tuning DVB-S to L-Band:0, Pol:H Srate=22500000, 22kHz=off > ERROR setting tone > : Invalid argument > polling.... > Getting frontend event > FE_STATUS: > polling.... > Getting frontend event > FE_STATUS: FE_HAS_SIGNAL FE_HAS_CARRIER > polling.... > polling.... > polling.... > polling.... > polling.... > polling.... > > I get the same error when I use the frequency of 1183000. Does anyone > have any ideas of what I am doing wrong? > > TIA > > -- simon Simon, Your dvbtune command looks correct. It's missing "FE_HAS_LOCK" - weak signal maybe? Have you still got a sky decoder available? Use it (or another set top box) to check whether you're getting a clear signal. Sam. From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 18 20:16:40 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Simon Green) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 07:16:40 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] Re: Help with Skystar 2 PCI card In-Reply-To: <1190115759.13318.6.camel@rambo> References: <20070918104002.68229.66944.Mailman@cat.ourshack.com> <1190115759.13318.6.camel@rambo> Message-ID: On 18/09/2007, Sam Hadley-Jones wrote: > Simon, > > Your dvbtune command looks correct. It's missing "FE_HAS_LOCK" - weak > signal maybe? > > Have you still got a sky decoder available? Use it (or another set top > box) to check whether you're getting a clear signal. I have no problems with my Sky reception. The signal check feature says "Signal Level: 77 Signal: Locked BER: 0.0e-07". -- simon From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Tue Sep 18 22:12:06 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Steven Ellis) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 09:12:06 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] Help with Skystar 2 PCI card In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46F03F26.9060800@openmedia.co.nz> Simon Green wrote: > Hi guys, > > I'm trying to get my Skystar 2 PCI card going, and have about as much > success as I did with the USB device. I'm running Ubuntu Feisty Fawn > (64 bit), and have a Sky dish that was installed three months ago. I > have the satellite cable plugged straight into the pci card (i.e. no > splitter yet) > > This is the output from dvbtune: > > simon@mythbox:~$ dvbtune -f 1733000 -s 22500 -p h -m > Using DVB card "ST STV0299 DVB-S" > tuning DVB-S to L-Band:0, Pol:H Srate=22500000, 22kHz=off > ERROR setting tone > : Invalid argument > polling.... > Getting frontend event > FE_STATUS: > polling.... > Getting frontend event > FE_STATUS: FE_HAS_SIGNAL FE_HAS_CARRIER > polling.... > polling.... > polling.... > polling.... > polling.... > polling.... > > I get the same error when I use the frequency of 1183000. Does anyone > have any ideas of what I am doing wrong? > Ok whats the LO of your LNB? I'm assuming you are trying to tune to 12483H, and Sky LNBs are usually 11300 or 10750. Have you tried dvbtune -f 1733000 -s 22500 -p h -v Also is this the only DVB card in the system. Have you got the USB device attached? Steve -- Steven Ellis - Technical Director OpenMedia Limited email - steven@openmedia.co.nz sales - sales@openmedia.co.nz support - support@openmedia.co.nz website - http://www.openmedia.co.nz From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Wed Sep 19 01:20:32 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Steven Ellis) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 12:20:32 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [mythtvnz] Help with Skystar 2 PCI card In-Reply-To: <46F03F26.9060800@openmedia.co.nz> References: <46F03F26.9060800@openmedia.co.nz> Message-ID: <33181.192.168.0.254.1190161232.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinux.net> On Wed, September 19, 2007 9:12 am, Steven Ellis wrote: > Simon Green wrote: >> Hi guys, >> >> I'm trying to get my Skystar 2 PCI card going, and have about as much >> success as I did with the USB device. I'm running Ubuntu Feisty Fawn >> (64 bit), and have a Sky dish that was installed three months ago. I >> have the satellite cable plugged straight into the pci card (i.e. no >> splitter yet) >> >> This is the output from dvbtune: >> >> simon@mythbox:~$ dvbtune -f 1733000 -s 22500 -p h -m Actually a really good test of your card and LNB is 12519 H+V (see http://www.lyngsat.com/optusd1.html for details) At the moment Sky transmit on both H + V for this setting. for my Universal LNB I'd run the following mythtv@mythtv:~/dvb$ dvbtune -c 1 -t 1 -f 1919000 -s 22500 -D 0 -p h -m Using DVB card "ST STV0299 DVB-S" tuning DVB-S to L-Band:8, Pol:H Srate=3D22500000, 22kHz=3Doff ERROR setting tone : Invalid argument polling.... Getting frontend event FE_STATUS: polling.... Getting frontend event FE_STATUS: FE_HAS_SIGNAL FE_HAS_LOCK FE_HAS_CARRIER FE_HAS_VITERBI FE_HAS_SYNC Bit error rate: 140 Signal strength: 53316 SNR: 49560 FE_STATUS: FE_HAS_SIGNAL FE_HAS_LOCK FE_HAS_CARRIER FE_HAS_VITERBI FE_HAS_SYNC A/V/TT Filters set Signal=3D53037, Verror=3D0, SNR=3D49413dB, BlockErrors=3D0, (S|L|C|V|SY|) Signal=3D53721, Verror=3D0, SNR=3D49701dB, BlockErrors=3D0, (S|L|C|V|SY|) Signal=3D53426, Verror=3D0, SNR=3D49659dB, BlockErrors=3D0, (S|L|C|V|SY|) and mythtv@mythtv:~/dvb$ dvbtune -c 1 -t 1 -f 1919000 -s 22500 -D 0 -p v -m Using DVB card "ST STV0299 DVB-S" tuning DVB-S to L-Band:8, Pol:V Srate=3D22500000, 22kHz=3Doff ERROR setting tone : Invalid argument polling.... Getting frontend event FE_STATUS: polling.... Getting frontend event FE_STATUS: FE_HAS_SIGNAL FE_HAS_LOCK FE_HAS_CARRIER FE_HAS_VITERBI FE_HAS_SYNC Bit error rate: 25339 Signal strength: 55650 SNR: 52494 FE_STATUS: FE_HAS_SIGNAL FE_HAS_LOCK FE_HAS_CARRIER FE_HAS_VITERBI FE_HAS_SYNC A/V/TT Filters set Signal=3D55721, Verror=3D0, SNR=3D52653dB, BlockErrors=3D0, (S|L|C|V|SY|) Signal=3D55718, Verror=3D0, SNR=3D52425dB, BlockErrors=3D0, (S|L|C|V|SY|) Signal=3D55137, Verror=3D0, SNR=3D52626dB, BlockErrors=3D0, (S|L|C|V|SY|) The lack of Verror and BlockErrors means my LNB has the correct skew. Steve -------------------------------------------- Steven Ellis - Technical Director OpenMedia Limited - The Home of myPVR email - steven@openmedia.co.nz sales - sales@openmedia.co.nz support - support@openmedia.co.nz website - http://www.openmedia.co.nz From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Wed Sep 19 01:31:58 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Hadley Rich) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 12:31:58 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] Help with Skystar 2 PCI card In-Reply-To: <33181.192.168.0.254.1190161232.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinux.net> References: <46F03F26.9060800@openmedia.co.nz> <33181.192.168.0.254.1190161232.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinux.net> Message-ID: <200709191231.58928.hads@nice.net.nz> On Wednesday 19 September 2007 12:20:32 Steven Ellis wrote: > Actually a really good test of your card and LNB is 12519 H+V > (see http://www.lyngsat.com/optusd1.html for details) > > At the moment Sky transmit on both H + V for this setting. > > for my Universal LNB I'd run the following > > mythtv@mythtv:~/dvb$ dvbtune -c 1 -t 1 -f 1919000 -s 22500 -D 0 -p h -m > Using DVB card "ST STV0299 DVB-S" > tuning DVB-S to L-Band:8, Pol:H Srate=22500000, 22kHz=off > ERROR setting tone > > : Invalid argument Are you trying to turn on tone with that "-t 1"? If so it should be "-tone 1". The man page is incorrect and therefore so are most examples you see around the 'net. hads -- http://nicegear.co.nz New Zealand's VoIP supplier From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Wed Sep 19 01:52:02 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Steven Ellis) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 12:52:02 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [mythtvnz] Help with Skystar 2 PCI card In-Reply-To: <200709191231.58928.hads@nice.net.nz> References: <46F03F26.9060800@openmedia.co.nz> <33181.192.168.0.254.1190161232.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinux.net> <200709191231.58928.hads@nice.net.nz> Message-ID: <33325.192.168.0.254.1190163122.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinux.net> On Wed, September 19, 2007 12:31 pm, Hadley Rich wrote: > On Wednesday 19 September 2007 12:20:32 Steven Ellis wrote: >> Actually a really good test of your card and LNB is 12519 H+V >> (see http://www.lyngsat.com/optusd1.html for details) >> >> At the moment Sky transmit on both H + V for this setting. >> >> for my Universal LNB I'd run the following >> >> mythtv@mythtv:~/dvb$ dvbtune -c 1 -t 1 -f 1919000 -s 22500 -D 0 -p h = -m >> Using DVB card "ST STV0299 DVB-S" >> tuning DVB-S to L-Band:8, Pol:H Srate=3D22500000, 22kHz=3Doff >> ERROR setting tone >> >> : Invalid argument > > Are you trying to turn on tone with that "-t 1"? If so it should be "-t= one > 1". > The man page is incorrect and therefore so are most examples you see > around > the 'net. > Thanks for that hads. Anyway with my universal LNB it works fine without "-tone 1", although with that argument removes the Invalid argument error= .. mythtv@mythtv:~/dvb$ dvbtune -c 1 -f 1856000 -s 22500 -D 0 -p h -m Using DVB card "ST STV0299 DVB-S" tuning DVB-S to L-Band:8, Pol:H Srate=3D22500000, 22kHz=3Doff ERROR setting tone : Invalid argument polling.... Getting frontend event FE_STATUS: polling.... Getting frontend event FE_STATUS: FE_HAS_SIGNAL FE_HAS_LOCK FE_HAS_CARRIER FE_HAS_VITERBI FE_HAS_SYNC Bit error rate: 4965 Signal strength: 51273 SNR: 54816 FE_STATUS: FE_HAS_SIGNAL FE_HAS_LOCK FE_HAS_CARRIER FE_HAS_VITERBI FE_HAS_SYNC Signal=3D51183, Verror=3D0, SNR=3D54810dB, BlockErrors=3D0, (S|L|C|V|SY|) Signal=3D51178, Verror=3D0, SNR=3D54771dB, BlockErrors=3D0, (S|L|C|V|SY|) -------------------------------------------- Steven Ellis - Technical Director OpenMedia Limited - The Home of myPVR email - steven@openmedia.co.nz sales - sales@openmedia.co.nz support - support@openmedia.co.nz website - http://www.openmedia.co.nz From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Wed Sep 19 03:06:41 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Wade Maxfield) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:06:41 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] New Sky channel In-Reply-To: <200709181644.37083.hads@nice.net.nz> References: <200709181417.46878.hads@nice.net.nz> <24b589d90709172025p2388339fl89258be5f9b5a7de@mail.gmail.com> <27819.203.163.71.197.1190088313.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinux.n et> <200709181644.37083.hads@nice.net.nz> Message-ID: > >There's an updated snapshot of epgsnoop here for anyone that is interested. >Not a lot has changed. > >http://nice.net.nz/scripts/epgsnoop-snapshot-13.tar.gz > >hads > Hmmm. Did you mean to post a bazaar repository? Last time round (snapshot 5) it was just a bunch of python scripts and config files... - Wade (who BTW does not have bazaar installed) 8) From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Wed Sep 19 03:14:56 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Hadley Rich) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:14:56 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] New Sky channel In-Reply-To: References: <200709181417.46878.hads@nice.net.nz> <200709181644.37083.hads@nice.net.nz> Message-ID: <200709191414.56840.hads@nice.net.nz> On Wednesday 19 September 2007 14:06:41 Wade Maxfield wrote: > Hmmm. Did you mean to post a bazaar repository? Last time round > (snapshot 5) it was just a bunch of python scripts and config files... Which it probably should have been this time, I tar'd up the directory without really thinking about it. > - Wade (who BTW does not have bazaar installed) 8) You can get it from http://nice.net.nz/bzr/epgsnoop if you want :) -- http://nicegear.co.nz New Zealand's VoIP supplier From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Wed Sep 19 03:26:33 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Wade Maxfield) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:26:33 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] New Sky channel In-Reply-To: <200709191414.56840.hads@nice.net.nz> References: <200709181417.46878.hads@nice.net.nz> <200709181644.37083.hads@nice.net.nz> <200709191414.56840.hads@nice.net.nz> Message-ID: >On Wednesday 19 September 2007 14:06:41 Wade Maxfield wrote: >> Hmmm. Did you mean to post a bazaar repository? Last time round >> (snapshot 5) it was just a bunch of python scripts and config files... > >Which it probably should have been this time, I tar'd up the directory >without really thinking about it. > >> - Wade (who BTW does not have bazaar installed) 8) > >You can get it from http://nice.net.nz/bzr/epgsnoop if you want :) > That gives me an empty directory listing. 8( - Wade From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Wed Sep 19 04:05:07 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Hadley Rich) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 15:05:07 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] New Sky channel In-Reply-To: References: <200709181417.46878.hads@nice.net.nz> <200709191414.56840.hads@nice.net.nz> Message-ID: <200709191505.07674.hads@nice.net.nz> On Wednesday 19 September 2007 14:26:33 Wade Maxfield wrote: > >On Wednesday 19 September 2007 14:06:41 Wade Maxfield wrote: > >> Hmmm. Did you mean to post a bazaar repository? Last time round > >> (snapshot 5) it was just a bunch of python scripts and config files... > > > >Which it probably should have been this time, I tar'd up the directory > >without really thinking about it. > > > >> - Wade (who BTW does not have bazaar installed) 8) > > > >You can get it from http://nice.net.nz/bzr/epgsnoop if you want :) > > That gives me an empty directory listing. 8( Hmm, I'm not very clear today am I. I meant you can grab it with bzr; `bzr branch http://nice.net.nz/bzr/epgsnoop` (sorry for the noise list). hads -- http://nicegear.co.nz New Zealand's VoIP supplier From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Wed Sep 19 04:16:04 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Wade Maxfield) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 15:16:04 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] New Sky channel In-Reply-To: References: <200709181417.46878.hads@nice.net.nz> <200709181644.37083.hads@nice.net.nz> <200709191414.56840.hads@nice.net.nz> Message-ID: >>On Wednesday 19 September 2007 14:06:41 Wade Maxfield wrote: >>> Hmmm. Did you mean to post a bazaar repository? Last time round >>> (snapshot 5) it was just a bunch of python scripts and config files... >> >>Which it probably should have been this time, I tar'd up the directory >>without really thinking about it. >> >>> - Wade (who BTW does not have bazaar installed) 8) >> >>You can get it from http://nice.net.nz/bzr/epgsnoop if you want :) >> > >That gives me an empty directory listing. 8( > > - Wade > Not to worry, I've sussed out how to checkout. - Wade From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Wed Sep 19 05:38:18 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (David Lowe) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:38:18 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] basic problem In-Reply-To: <20070918104002.68229.66944.Mailman@cat.ourshack.com> References: <20070918104002.68229.66944.Mailman@cat.ourshack.com> Message-ID: <000001c7fa76$ea96ba20$bfc42e60$@co.nz> Hadley said: "If you're setting up a new system and haven't setup your channels yet I'd recommend using tv_grab_nz-py - it does make things easier. It will grab the feed for you using mythfilldatabase, filter out any you don't need etc. Feel free to post a note here if you need some instruction." Yes please ;-) Actually, I have a more basic problem and I'm sorry if this is so basic that it's stupid.... but I can't make my tuner card talk to my Sky decoder. I have managed to connect to the normal aerial and can get free-to-air TV, and I have manually scanned for channels, and all that works ok on /dev/video0. I have connected the Scart output on the decoder to the composite inputs on the PVR150, but I can't work out how to configure mythTV to bring in the feed from the decoder.. I presume I have to do something in the backend setup... can you walk me through it? I have set up a second capture card and told it that the default input is 'composite' and mapped that to a source and an input connection. It scans for and finds channels but I get no pictures. Have I done it all wrong? Once that's going, then I'll tackle the remote control.... - David From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Wed Sep 19 06:35:31 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Steve Hodge) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:35:31 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] basic problem In-Reply-To: <000001c7fa76$ea96ba20$bfc42e60$@co.nz> References: <20070918104002.68229.66944.Mailman@cat.ourshack.com> <000001c7fa76$ea96ba20$bfc42e60$@co.nz> Message-ID: <24b589d90709182235m1823fa7fw196f62a527227c6@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_19652_30920377.1190180131356 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 9/19/07, David Lowe wrote: > > I have set up a second capture card and > told it that the default input is 'composite' and mapped that to a source > and an input connection. It scans for and finds channels but I get no > pictures. Have you actually got a second capture card (that you've got Sky attached to)? If you have one card that you have both Sky and the aerial plugged into, then in mythtv-setup you should have: One Capture Card (MPEG: /dev/v4l/video0 or similar) Two Video Sources: SkyTV and Broadcast (you can call them whatever you like). I'm not sure of the correct setup for these for tv_grab_nz-py as I don't use it myself. In Input Connections you should have something like: [ MPEG : /dev/v4l/video0 ] (Tuner 1) -> Broadcast [ MPEG : /dev/v4l/video0 ] (S-Video 1) -> (None) [ MPEG : /dev/v4l/video0 ] (Composite 1) -> SkyTV [ MPEG : /dev/v4l/video0 ] (S-Video 2) -> (None) [ MPEG : /dev/v4l/video0 ] (Composite 2) -> (None) You should then be able to switch between the inputs in Live TV using the "c" key. If you have two cards then you'll have to set up the second card in Capture Cards and then in Input Connections you connect "Broadcast" to one card's "Tuner 1" input and "SkyTV" to the other card's "Composite 1" input. In this case you need to use the "y" key to change capture cards in Live TV instead of the "c" key. Incidentally, you'll get a noticeably better picture if you use S-Video rather than composite to connect the Sky box to the capture card. You can get SCART adapters that have S-Video outputs if your Sky box does not have an S-Video output (some do, some don't). My advice is to get it working with the wiring you've got first though. And if you do change later note that you'll need to update the input connections in mythtv-setup to match the new wiring. Cheers, Steve ------=_Part_19652_30920377.1190180131356 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 9/19/07, David Lowe <david@thistledown.co.nz> wrote:
I have set up a second capture card and
told it that the default input is 'composite' and mapped that to a source
and an input connection. It scans for and finds channels but I get no
pictures.

Have you actually got a second capture card (that you've got Sky attached to)?

If you have one card that you have both Sky and the aerial plugged into, then in mythtv-setup you should have:
One Capture Card (MPEG: /dev/v4l/video0 or similar)
Two Video Sources: SkyTV and Broadcast (you can call them whatever you like). I'm not sure of the correct setup for these for tv_grab_nz-py as I don't use it myself.
In Input Connections you should have something like:
[ MPEG : /dev/v4l/video0 ] (Tuner 1) -> Broadcast
[ MPEG : /dev/v4l/video0 ] (S-Video 1) -> (None)
[ MPEG : /dev/v4l/video0 ] (Composite 1) -> SkyTV
[ MPEG : /dev/v4l/video0 ] (S-Video 2) -> (None)
[ MPEG : /dev/v4l/video0 ] (Composite 2) -> (None)

You should then be able to switch between the inputs in Live TV using the "c" key.

If you have two cards then you'll have to set up the second card in Capture Cards and then in Input Connections you connect "Broadcast" to one card's "Tuner 1" input and "SkyTV" to the other card's "Composite 1" input. In this case you need to use the "y" key to change capture cards in Live TV instead of the "c" key.

Incidentally, you'll get a noticeably better picture if you use S-Video rather than composite to connect the Sky box to the capture card. You can get SCART adapters that have S-Video outputs if your Sky box does not have an S-Video output (some do, some don't). My advice is to get it working with the wiring you've got first though. And if you do change later note that you'll need to update the input connections in mythtv-setup to match the new wiring.

Cheers,
Steve
------=_Part_19652_30920377.1190180131356-- From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Wed Sep 19 06:40:36 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Hadley Rich) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:40:36 +1200 Subject: tv_grab_nz-py mini howto was (Re: [mythtvnz] basic problem) In-Reply-To: <000001c7fa76$ea96ba20$bfc42e60$@co.nz> References: <20070918104002.68229.66944.Mailman@cat.ourshack.com> <000001c7fa76$ea96ba20$bfc42e60$@co.nz> Message-ID: <200709191740.37120.hads@nice.net.nz> On Wednesday 19 September 2007 16:38:18 David Lowe wrote: > Hadley said: >> "If you're setting up a new system and haven't setup your channels yet I'd >> recommend using tv_grab_nz-py - it does make things easier. It will grab >> the feed for you using mythfilldatabase, filter out any you don't need etc. >> Feel free to post a note here if you need some instruction." > > Yes please ;-) OK. You will need the following; MythTV >= 0.20.2 XMLTV >= 0.5.43 Where you see a line starting with $ below, that's where you enter stuff at the command prompt (don't type the $). $ wget http://nice.net.nz/scripts/tv_grab_nz-py # Download the file $ sudo mv tv_grab_nz-py /usr/local/bin/ # Put it in a system directory $ sudo chmod 755 /usr/local/bin/tv_grab_nz-py # Make it executable $ mythtv-setup # Start mythtv-setup Go into "3. Video Sources", then into the video source you want to edit or create a new one. You should be able to run through the list of listings grabbers and tv_grab_nz-py should be one of them (if not, something went wrong, ask for assistance). Click on the "Finish" button and the grabber configuration will start. Myth currently sets up the grabbers in the terminal from where you started mythtv-setup so switch back to that terminal now (ALT+TAB or whatever). You will now be prompted whether you want to use each one of the channels that's available (it's annoying but you only have to do it once - I believe they are going to implement a better solution at some stage). You can adjust these later so don't stress out if you mess it up. Once you've been through all the questions mythtv will tell you; "You MUST run 'mythfilldatabase --manual the first time, instead of just 'mythfilldatabase'." Once you see that, switch back to mythtv-setup and you'll see the same thing there. Click OK, then you're done. Exit out of mythtv-setup and then run mythfilldatabase. You can do it with or without the --manual switch like suggested. I've personally not done it that way. $ mythfilldatabase This will download the listings, import the channels and their icons for you. If you didn't do the --manual option to mythfilldatabase then you need to set channel numbers for the channels. You can do this in mythtv-setup (easy but annoying if you have loads of channels) or script it (harder to setup but easy if someone does it for you) :) The End. hads -- http://nicegear.co.nz New Zealand's VoIP supplier From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Wed Sep 19 07:00:14 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 18:00:14 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [mythtvnz] EPG broken Message-ID: <1190181614.10000@files.henwood.mine.nu> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --bound1190181614 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hadley Rich wrote .. > On Tuesday 18 September 2007 14:03:48 Simon Green wrote: > > I'n using the nice feed, and am noticing the same thing. Looking at > > the website the file was last updated on September 13th, which would > > indicate a problem that their end. Maybe the new file isn't been > > uploaded to the web site > > Hmm, good spotting. The cron job for the old listings seems to have failed > silently. I've just run it manually so it should be up to date now and > I'll > check out why it hasn't been running. Hi Hads, Is it just me, or do the listings still finish at 12 tomorrow afternoon? Cheers Neil --bound1190181614-- From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Wed Sep 19 08:13:02 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Simon Green) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 19:13:02 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] EPG broken In-Reply-To: <1190181614.10000@files.henwood.mine.nu> References: <1190181614.10000@files.henwood.mine.nu> Message-ID: On 19/09/2007, nhenwood@gmail.com wrote: > Is it just me, or do the listings still finish at 12 tomorrow afternoon? It's just you :-) There was a problem, but it was fixed about 2pm yesterday afternoon. If you get a new file, you'll get your usual 7 days worth of listings. -- simon From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Wed Sep 19 08:44:05 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Simon Green) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 19:44:05 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] Help with Skystar 2 PCI card In-Reply-To: <200709191231.58928.hads@nice.net.nz> References: <46F03F26.9060800@openmedia.co.nz> <33181.192.168.0.254.1190161232.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinux.net> <200709191231.58928.hads@nice.net.nz> Message-ID: On 19/09/2007, Hadley Rich wrote: > Are you trying to turn on tone with that "-t 1"? If so it should be "-tone 1". > The man page is incorrect and therefore so are most examples you see around > the 'net. Hi guys, using -t 1 (and -tone 1) didn't work. However, when I used -tone 0, it works. I now have freeview (and sky) on my myth box. Thanks all for your input today. I'm one happy person right now :-) -- simon From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Wed Sep 19 09:05:47 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Hadley Rich) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:05:47 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] Help with Skystar 2 PCI card In-Reply-To: References: <200709191231.58928.hads@nice.net.nz> Message-ID: <200709192005.47328.hads@nice.net.nz> On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 19:44:05 Simon Green wrote: > using -t 1 (and -tone 1) didn't work. However, when I used -tone 0, it > works. I now have freeview (and sky) on my myth box. Thanks all for > your input today. I'm one happy person right now :-) Yeah, that post was meant specifically for Steve. He mentioned a universal LNB which is different from the standard Sky ones. I use -tone 0 too. On the newer Sky LNBs the tone switches between the two LNB throats which point at different satellites. -tone 0 will make it point at D1 which is what you want. hads -- http://nicegear.co.nz New Zealand's VoIP Supplier From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Wed Sep 19 09:41:09 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Simon Green) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:41:09 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] Help with Skystar 2 PCI card In-Reply-To: <200709192005.47328.hads@nice.net.nz> References: <200709191231.58928.hads@nice.net.nz> <200709192005.47328.hads@nice.net.nz> Message-ID: On 19/09/2007, Hadley Rich wrote: > I use -tone 0 too. On the newer Sky LNBs the tone switches between the two LNB > throats which point at different satellites. -tone 0 will make it point at D1 > which is what you want. Thanks. I have added a note to the WLUG wiki so the next person knows what to do. Also removed the part about Sky being vertical, since they aren't anymore. -- simon From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Thu Sep 20 22:31:53 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Matt Poff) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 09:31:53 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] OT: Cat5e sharing phone and audio - any issues? Message-ID: <46F2E6C9.6060608@headfirst.co.nz> Hi, Am re-gibbing a couple of bedrooms in the house and thought it might be a good opportunity to throw some extra wiring in the walls. I'm thinking of running two runs of Cat5e from each outlet to a hub location in the basement. One cable will be used for Gigabit ethernet (for future high def video streaming to Myth Front Ends) and the other I'll split to carry phone and 2-channel analogue audio (can't afford to run optical cable, don't have home theatre yet and suspect I never will in the bedrooms so 2-channel is fine). Is anyone using a similar setup and if so what milage are you getting? My only concern is that there might be some interference between the audio and phone signals in one cable - is that likely? I thought about running some Sat cable as well but with the MythServer/FrontEnd solution I doubt I'll ever need it. It's quite clean if I only have to run all broadcast TV feeds to one location in the house and then use data to carry them elsewhere. Does this sound like a good approach? Cheers, Matt From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Thu Sep 20 23:58:16 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Noel & Di) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:58:16 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] OT: Cat5e sharing phone and audio - any issues? In-Reply-To: <46F2E6C9.6060608@headfirst.co.nz> References: <46F2E6C9.6060608@headfirst.co.nz> Message-ID: <46F2FB08.7000107@igrin.co.nz> Matt I did what you are proposing , and suffer a a small amount of interference on audio. I have since discovered Lexomm LCHC300 (PDL product) which has individually screened twisted-pair cable with common copper braid screen all up 8mm diameter - PERFECT!! you can even run composite AV down it at 900Mhz Noel. Matt Poff wrote: > Hi, > > Am re-gibbing a couple of bedrooms in the house and thought it might > be a good opportunity to throw some extra wiring in the walls. I'm > thinking of running two runs of Cat5e from each outlet to a hub > location in the basement. > > One cable will be used for Gigabit ethernet (for future high def video > streaming to Myth Front Ends) and the other I'll split to carry phone > and 2-channel analogue audio (can't afford to run optical cable, don't > have home theatre yet and suspect I never will in the bedrooms so > 2-channel is fine). > > Is anyone using a similar setup and if so what milage are you getting? > My only concern is that there might be some interference between the > audio and phone signals in one cable - is that likely? > > I thought about running some Sat cable as well but with the > MythServer/FrontEnd solution I doubt I'll ever need it. It's quite > clean if I only have to run all broadcast TV feeds to one location in > the house and then use data to carry them elsewhere. > > Does this sound like a good approach? > > Cheers, > Matt > > _______________________________________________ > mythtvnz mailing list > mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz > http://lists.ourshack.com/mailman/listinfo/mythtvnz > Archives http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/mythtvnz/ > > From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Fri Sep 21 00:28:26 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Matt Poff) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 11:28:26 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] OT: Cat5e sharing phone and audio - any issues? In-Reply-To: <46F2FB08.7000107@igrin.co.nz> References: <46F2E6C9.6060608@headfirst.co.nz> <46F2FB08.7000107@igrin.co.nz> Message-ID: <46F3021A.1000007@headfirst.co.nz> Nice! Do you know a good source for a 100M roll of that stuff? I'm assuming it's a touch more expensive than Cat5. That said, I can still use Cat5 for the data and just use this stuff for audio/phone. Matt Noel & Di wrote: > Matt > I did what you are proposing , and suffer a a small amount of > interference on audio. I have since discovered Lexomm LCHC300 (PDL > product) which has individually screened twisted-pair cable with > common copper braid screen all up 8mm diameter - PERFECT!! you can > even run composite AV down it at 900Mhz > Noel. > > Matt Poff wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Am re-gibbing a couple of bedrooms in the house and thought it might >> be a good opportunity to throw some extra wiring in the walls. I'm >> thinking of running two runs of Cat5e from each outlet to a hub >> location in the basement. >> >> One cable will be used for Gigabit ethernet (for future high def >> video streaming to Myth Front Ends) and the other I'll split to carry >> phone and 2-channel analogue audio (can't afford to run optical >> cable, don't have home theatre yet and suspect I never will in the >> bedrooms so 2-channel is fine). >> >> Is anyone using a similar setup and if so what milage are you >> getting? My only concern is that there might be some interference >> between the audio and phone signals in one cable - is that likely? >> >> I thought about running some Sat cable as well but with the >> MythServer/FrontEnd solution I doubt I'll ever need it. It's quite >> clean if I only have to run all broadcast TV feeds to one location in >> the house and then use data to carry them elsewhere. >> >> Does this sound like a good approach? >> >> Cheers, >> Matt >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mythtvnz mailing list >> mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz >> http://lists.ourshack.com/mailman/listinfo/mythtvnz >> Archives http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/mythtvnz/ >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > mythtvnz mailing list > mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz > http://lists.ourshack.com/mailman/listinfo/mythtvnz > Archives http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/mythtvnz/ > -- Matt Poff - Director HEADFIRST LTD Web Developers Engaging | Useful | Works Email: matt.poff@headfirst.co.nz Ph: 64 4 477 6075 Mob: 027 229 9584 http://www.headfirst.co.nz From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Fri Sep 21 01:48:58 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Noel & Di) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 12:48:58 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] OT: Cat5e sharing phone and audio - any issues? In-Reply-To: <46F3021A.1000007@headfirst.co.nz> References: <46F2E6C9.6060608@headfirst.co.nz> <46F2FB08.7000107@igrin.co.nz> <46F3021A.1000007@headfirst.co.nz> Message-ID: <46F314FA.5070009@igrin.co.nz> Most electrical suppliers can get it for you - The Electrical depot, J A Russell, Mastertrade etc... I've started using this for everything in our house instead of cat5e (40 way patch panel behind a picture in the hallway) Matt Poff wrote: > Nice! Do you know a good source for a 100M roll of that stuff? I'm > assuming it's a touch more expensive than Cat5. That said, I can still > use Cat5 for the data and just use this stuff for audio/phone. > > Matt > > Noel & Di wrote: > >> Matt >> I did what you are proposing , and suffer a a small amount of >> interference on audio. I have since discovered Lexomm LCHC300 (PDL >> product) which has individually screened twisted-pair cable with >> common copper braid screen all up 8mm diameter - PERFECT!! you can >> even run composite AV down it at 900Mhz >> Noel. >> >> Matt Poff wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Am re-gibbing a couple of bedrooms in the house and thought it might >>> be a good opportunity to throw some extra wiring in the walls. I'm >>> thinking of running two runs of Cat5e from each outlet to a hub >>> location in the basement. >>> >>> One cable will be used for Gigabit ethernet (for future high def >>> video streaming to Myth Front Ends) and the other I'll split to >>> carry phone and 2-channel analogue audio (can't afford to run >>> optical cable, don't have home theatre yet and suspect I never will >>> in the bedrooms so 2-channel is fine). >>> >>> Is anyone using a similar setup and if so what milage are you >>> getting? My only concern is that there might be some interference >>> between the audio and phone signals in one cable - is that likely? >>> >>> I thought about running some Sat cable as well but with the >>> MythServer/FrontEnd solution I doubt I'll ever need it. It's quite >>> clean if I only have to run all broadcast TV feeds to one location >>> in the house and then use data to carry them elsewhere. >>> >>> Does this sound like a good approach? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Matt >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> mythtvnz mailing list >>> mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz >>> http://lists.ourshack.com/mailman/listinfo/mythtvnz >>> Archives http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/mythtvnz/ >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mythtvnz mailing list >> mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz >> http://lists.ourshack.com/mailman/listinfo/mythtvnz >> Archives http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/mythtvnz/ >> > > From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Fri Sep 21 04:03:38 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Richard) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:03:38 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] OT: Cat5e sharing phone and audio - any issues? In-Reply-To: <46F2E6C9.6060608@headfirst.co.nz> References: <46F2E6C9.6060608@headfirst.co.nz> Message-ID: <146d01c7fbfc$02297430$067c5c90$@com> I have tried audio on cat5e with poor results. First, I just stuck RCA plugs on the end, sound was good but there was too much noise on it (buzz and got some ethnic AM radio station quietly in the background. I could tune to other stations by moving the cable around, but not get rid of all of them) Then I got some baluns, like you use to send CCTV over cat5e - sound was awful - lost all the bass and the treble was down a lot, so it ended up sounding like an old am radio. There are active devices to make it balanced, or I could get some proper audio gear with balanced in and out on a canon plug, but both solutions cost more money then simply not bothering with audio in the kitchen. -----Original Message----- From: mythtvnz-admin@lists.linuxnut.co.nz [mailto:mythtvnz-admin@lists.linuxnut.co.nz] On Behalf Of Matt Poff Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 9:32 AM To: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Subject: [mythtvnz] OT: Cat5e sharing phone and audio - any issues? Hi, Am re-gibbing a couple of bedrooms in the house and thought it might be a good opportunity to throw some extra wiring in the walls. I'm thinking of running two runs of Cat5e from each outlet to a hub location in the basement. One cable will be used for Gigabit ethernet (for future high def video streaming to Myth Front Ends) and the other I'll split to carry phone and 2-channel analogue audio (can't afford to run optical cable, don't have home theatre yet and suspect I never will in the bedrooms so 2-channel is fine). Is anyone using a similar setup and if so what milage are you getting? My only concern is that there might be some interference between the audio and phone signals in one cable - is that likely? I thought about running some Sat cable as well but with the MythServer/FrontEnd solution I doubt I'll ever need it. It's quite clean if I only have to run all broadcast TV feeds to one location in the house and then use data to carry them elsewhere. Does this sound like a good approach? Cheers, Matt _______________________________________________ mythtvnz mailing list mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz http://lists.ourshack.com/mailman/listinfo/mythtvnz Archives http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/mythtvnz/ From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Fri Sep 21 09:12:49 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (yuri) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:12:49 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] OT: Cat5e sharing phone and audio - any issues? In-Reply-To: <46F2E6C9.6060608@headfirst.co.nz> References: <46F2E6C9.6060608@headfirst.co.nz> Message-ID: On 21/09/2007, Matt Poff wrote: > One cable will be used for Gigabit ethernet (for future high def video > streaming to Myth Front Ends) and the other I'll split to carry phone > and 2-channel analogue audio (can't afford to run optical cable, don't > have home theatre yet and suspect I never will in the bedrooms so > 2-channel is fine). Don't bother. Run some high quality speaker cable instead. Coax (RG6) is not too expensive so you might as well throw some of that in as well - future proofing. Alternatively, you could get an ethernet music player that plays mp3 files streamed from a server. (eg SliMP3 - google it. There may be others too) Yuri From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Fri Sep 21 09:18:53 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (yuri) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:18:53 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] OT: Cat5e sharing phone and audio - any issues? In-Reply-To: References: <46F2E6C9.6060608@headfirst.co.nz> Message-ID: On 21/09/2007, yuri wrote: > Alternatively, you could get an ethernet music player that plays mp3 > files streamed from a server. (eg SliMP3 - google it. There may be > others too) Here it is: http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_transporter.html It plays ogg too. Yuri From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Fri Sep 21 22:03:23 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Matt Poff) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 09:03:23 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] OT: Cat5e sharing phone and audio - any issues? In-Reply-To: References: <46F2E6C9.6060608@headfirst.co.nz> Message-ID: <46F4319B.6060905@headfirst.co.nz> Cheers. The mp3 streaming solutions look good but don't work for me at the moment as I don't keep a server running in the house 24/7 and don't want to plant powered-speakers everywhere. When I do want to stream audio I can do that at the moment with an Airport Express and laptop. So I'm thinking I'll still do a couple of runs of the Lexcom (one for Gigabit Ethernet, the other to share phone and ... whatever may come along). I'll add in a run of 4-core 14AWG speaker cable (the longest run is 20m but to low Ohm outdoor speakers). This guy does a 50M roll of cotton yarn insulated cable for $160: http://www.dynamix.co.nz/index.html?VS=p&G=CA-1450-2&P=&ID=5260820 Cory's does the Lexcom for $1.87/mtr trade so I reckon a couple of runs of this and the audio should be pretty good future proofing... yuri wrote: > Don't bother. Run some high quality speaker cable instead. > Coax (RG6) is not too expensive so you might as well throw some of > that in as well - future proofing. > > Alternatively, you could get an ethernet music player that plays mp3 > files streamed from a server. (eg SliMP3 - google it. There may be > others too) > > Yuri > > _______________________________________________ > mythtvnz mailing list > mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz > http://lists.ourshack.com/mailman/listinfo/mythtvnz > Archives http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/mythtvnz/ > > -- Matt Poff - Director HEADFIRST LTD Web Developers Engaging | Useful | Works Email: matt.poff@headfirst.co.nz Ph: 64 4 477 6075 Mob: 027 229 9584 http://www.headfirst.co.nz From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Sat Sep 22 23:06:06 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Matt Poff) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 10:06:06 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] OT: Cat5e sharing phone and audio - any issues? (Lexcom question for Noel) In-Reply-To: <46F2FB08.7000107@igrin.co.nz> References: <46F2E6C9.6060608@headfirst.co.nz> <46F2FB08.7000107@igrin.co.nz> Message-ID: <46F591CE.2080603@headfirst.co.nz> Ok, so I've been looking into the Lexcom product line and it looks pretty versatile which is great as I'm basically just wanting to get cables into the walls and worry about what they will carry later. The only thing I'm unsure about is using the cable for speaker wiring. There's a UK company which has developed an audio distribution technology using Lexcom cable (check out http://www.ibn-01.com/intelligenthome) but it uses proprietary inbuilt active speaker units. All I want is the option to patch the Lexcom wiring I'll use for data/phone/TV for speaker cable so I can use it as a speaker cable run as well. There doesn't seem to be any kind of module for doing this in the Lexcom range, is it just a simple matter of by-passing the hub and just connecting two outlet cables together directly to form the cable link? If I use it this way,do you think the Lexcom cable sufficiently shielded so that if two cables are run in parallel, with one carrying data and the other audio output that no interference on the data line will occur. Generally you're not supposed to run data and audio signals in parallel right? Also I see the installation instructions for the Lexcom cable specify a minimum run of 8Metres so as to not overload circuits in their hub comms modules. I guess this didn't effect you as you're not using their hub gear but do you think this is necessary (adds a lot of extra length to my cable requirements)? Hope you can help and cheers for the lead on this stuff! Matt From mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz Sat Sep 22 23:23:26 2007 From: mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz (Noel & Di) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 10:23:26 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] OT: Cat5e sharing phone and audio - any issues? In-Reply-To: <46F4319B.6060905@headfirst.co.nz> References: <46F2E6C9.6060608@headfirst.co.nz> <46F4319B.6060905@headfirst.co.nz> Message-ID: <46F595DE.1090508@igrin.co.nz> Matt For the UHF RF I chopped up the Lexcom balun patch-cords to utilize their 50 - 100 ohm balun - Not HD I know but works well - the lead with an IR socket (LCHLTVIR) was most usefully for using an IR receiver via the cat 5 back to the myth box... The "AV" cable carries the audio from sound card on the green pair(L,R screen-common) phone on blue, AV the orange pair and IR on the brown pair . The "DATA" cable has ADSL on the orange & green pairs (1,2,3,6), brown pair connects to switches (at each TV) to remote-on the router & AV distribution amp via a latching relay at the patch panel, so we don't have to run the whole works 24/7, leaving the blue pair spare for a rainy day. In the first part of our house we ran RG6 and a cat 5, starred to the wall outlets - was OK.... then I discovered the Lexcom cable & installed 2 runs to each wall outlet.... thinking I should maybe have done three runs - or would that have been overkill? But anyway it all works well and overall more flexible with being able to change things around. On the BIG TV we feed the audio into the TVs AV in and use it's own speakers. For the projector (shot out through the multifold doors to an outdoor "screen" AKA convenient wall) we use the stereo system, & pop the speakers outside.... then watch everyone that was dancing fall over when you have a rotating visualization running with the music! Have fun Noel. Matt Poff wrote: > Cheers. The mp3 streaming solutions look good but don't work for me at > the moment as I don't keep a server running in the house 24/7 and > don't want to plant powered-speakers everywhere. When I do want to > stream audio I can do that at the moment with an Airport Express and > laptop. > > So I'm thinking I'll still do a couple of runs of the Lexcom (one for > Gigabit Ethernet, the other to share phone and ... whatever may come > along). I'll add in a run of 4-core 14AWG speaker cable (the longest > run is 20m but to low Ohm outdoor speakers). This guy does a 50M roll > of cotton yarn insulated cable for $160: > > http://www.dynamix.co.nz/index.html?VS=p&G=CA-1450-2&P=&ID=5260820 > > > Cory's does the Lexcom for $1.87/mtr trade so I reckon a couple of > runs of this and the audio should be pretty good future proofing... > > yuri wrote: > >> Don't bother. Run some high quality speaker cable instead. >> Coax (RG6) is not too expensive so you might as well throw some of >> that in as well - future proofing. >> >> Alternatively, you could get an ethernet music player that plays mp3 >> files streamed from a server. (eg SliMP3 - google it. There may be >> others too) >> >> Yuri >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mythtvnz mailing list >> mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz >> http://lists.ourshack.com/mailman/listinfo/mythtvnz >> Archives http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/mythtvnz/ >> >> > > From lennon at orcon.net.nz Mon Sep 24 22:34:39 2007 From: lennon at orcon.net.nz (Craig Whitmore) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 09:34:39 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] Hauppauge HVR4000 Card in Linux Message-ID: <7E37BD91BDAF483F86739F6070847F25@office.orcon.net.nz> I finally got my new HVR4000 card last night and installed it with the latest patches with multiproto/HVR4000 support. At the moment driver wise the only thing working is the DVB-S which works well under linux. Analog TV seems to load up , but will not tune into any source for some reason. Also the FM Tuner is not supported at all as of yet and I had no way to test DVB-T yet (nothing I can find supports the multiprotocol support which this card needs for DVB-T and not being broadcast in NZ at the moment ) and there are no DVB-S2 stuff available to test from NZ The downloaded latest version of the v4l hg clone http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb and patched via this file http://dev.kewl.org/hvr4000/v4l-dvb-hg-2007-08-31.diff I needed to download the DVB-T firmware for the 4000 to work. get ftp://167.206.143.11/outgoing/Oxford/88x_2_117_24275_1_INF.zip and then dd if=hcw88bda.sys of=dvb-fe-cx24116.fw skip=81768 bs=1 count=32522 and place in /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware/ mythtv finds it fine and can find/scan all the channels and views fine. Linux version 2.6.22.6 ----------------------- cx88[0]: subsystem: 0070:6902, board: Hauppauge WinTV-HVR4000 DVB-S/S2/T/Hybrid [card=58,autodetected] cx88[0]: TV tuner type 63, Radio tuner type -1 cx88/2: cx2388x MPEG-TS Driver Manager version 0.0.6 loaded cx88[0]: i2c init: enabling analog demod on HVR1300/4000 tuner tveeprom 2-0050: Hauppauge model 69009, rev B2D3, serial# 2807241 tveeprom 2-0050: MAC address is 00-0D-FE-2A-D5-C9 tveeprom 2-0050: tuner model is Philips FMD1216MEX (idx 133, type 4) tveeprom 2-0050: TV standards PAL(B/G) PAL(I) SECAM(L/L') PAL(D/D1/K) ATSC/DVB Digital (eeprom 0xf4) tveeprom 2-0050: audio processor is CX882 (idx 33) tveeprom 2-0050: decoder processor is CX882 (idx 25) tveeprom 2-0050: has radio, has IR receiver, has no IR transmitter cx88[0]: hauppauge eeprom: model=69009 input: cx88 IR (Hauppauge WinTV-HVR400 as /class/input/input1 cx88[0]/0: found at 0000:04:09.0, rev: 5, irq: 21, latency: 32, mmio: 0xfa000000 cx88[0]/0: registered device video0 [v4l2] cx88[0]/0: registered device vbi0 cx88[0]/0: registered device radio0 cx88[0]/2: cx2388x 8802 Driver Manager cx88[0]/2: found at 0000:04:09.2, rev: 5, irq: 21, latency: 32, mmio: 0xf8000000 cx88/2: cx2388x dvb driver version 0.0.6 loaded cx88/2: registering cx8802 driver, type: dvb access: shared cx88[0]/2: subsystem: 0070:6902, board: Hauppauge WinTV-HVR4000 DVB-S/S2/T/Hybrid [card=58] cx88[0]/2: cx2388x based DVB/ATSC card DVB: registering new adapter (cx88[0]) DVB: registering frontend 0 (Conexant CX24116/CX24118)... cx24116_firmware_ondemand: Waiting for firmware upload (dvb-fe-cx24116.fw)... cx24116_firmware_ondemand: Waiting for firmware upload(2)... From steven at openmedia.co.nz Tue Sep 25 02:18:47 2007 From: steven at openmedia.co.nz (Steven Ellis) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:18:47 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [mythtvnz] DVB EIT data and DST cut over Message-ID: <33808.192.168.0.254.1190683127.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinux.net> Seeing some very odd problems with the freeview EIT data compared with Sky's post the DST change over on Sunday First up most channels 1-4 are off by an hour on freeview. Secondly TVNZ 6 is off by 2 hours. Hads - How much do you know about the EIT spec. How is it supposed to handle timezones and DST changes. A simple example is for the Sky data for Monday has Brothers and Sisters at Freeview has it at Now given the fact the local system will be at +1300 for DST the Sky data is correct, or am I missing something. Steve -------------------------------------------- Steven Ellis - Technical Director OpenMedia Limited - The Home of myPVR email - steven at openmedia.co.nz sales - sales at openmedia.co.nz support - support at openmedia.co.nz website - http://www.openmedia.co.nz From steven at openmedia.co.nz Tue Sep 25 04:58:05 2007 From: steven at openmedia.co.nz (Steven Ellis) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 15:58:05 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [mythtvnz] myPVR in Linux Journal Message-ID: <34379.192.168.0.254.1190692685.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinux.net> Sadly the article is subscriber only at present - http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9799 Steve -------------------------------------------- Steven Ellis - Technical Director OpenMedia Limited - The Home of myPVR email - steven at openmedia.co.nz sales - sales at openmedia.co.nz support - support at openmedia.co.nz website - http://www.openmedia.co.nz From steven at openmedia.co.nz Tue Sep 25 05:57:31 2007 From: steven at openmedia.co.nz (Steven Ellis) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:57:31 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [mythtvnz] DVB EIT data and DST cut over Message-ID: <34759.192.168.0.254.1190696251.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinux.net> Possible duplicate as I didn't see my original message appear On Tue, September 25, 2007 1:18 pm, Steven Ellis wrote: > > Seeing some very odd problems with the freeview EIT data compared with Sky's post the DST change over on Sunday > > First up most channels 1-4 are off by an hour on freeview. > > Secondly TVNZ 6 is off by 2 hours. > > Hads - How much do you know about the EIT spec. How is it supposed to handle timezones and DST changes. > > A simple example is for the Sky data for Monday has Brothers and Sisters at > channel="1032.dvb.guide"> > > Freeview has it at > channel="1036.dvb.guide"> Ok I've now taken a poke around the EIT stream and it does look like the freeview data is poked. The EIT data is supposed to be in UTC, hence from Sunday we are UTC + 13 Brothers and Sisters for next monday shows up as follows which will be off by an hour as 21:30 NZST Event_ID: 6967 (0x1b37) Start_time: 0xd466083000 [= 2007-10-01 08:30:00 (UTC)] Duration: 0x0010000 [= 01:00:00 (UTC)] Running_status: 0 (0x00) [= undefined] Free_CA_mode: 0 (0x00) [= unscrambled] Descriptors_loop_length: 379 (0x17b) DVB-DescriptorTag: 77 (0x4d) [= short_event_descriptor] Descriptor_length: 192 (0xc0) ISO639_2_language_code: eng event_name_length: 20 (0x14) event_name: "Brothers And Sisters" -- Charset: Latin alphabet Even better is the following program on TVNZ6 which is showin up as off by 2 hours at 22:30 NZST. Event_ID: 7328 (0x1ca0) Start_time: 0xd466093000 [= 2007-10-01 09:30:00 (UTC)] Duration: 0x0010000 [= 01:00:00 (UTC)] Running_status: 0 (0x00) [= undefined] Free_CA_mode: 0 (0x00) [= unscrambled] Descriptors_loop_length: 407 (0x197) DVB-DescriptorTag: 77 (0x4d) [= short_event_descriptor] Descriptor_length: 211 (0xd3) ISO639_2_language_code: eng event_name_length: 30 (0x1e) event_name: "Rolling Stones, Truth And Lies" -- Charset: Latin alphabet Steve -------------------------------------------- Steven Ellis - Technical Director OpenMedia Limited - The Home of myPVR email - steven at openmedia.co.nz sales - sales at openmedia.co.nz support - support at openmedia.co.nz website - http://www.openmedia.co.nz -------------------------------------------- Steven Ellis - Technical Director OpenMedia Limited - The Home of myPVR email - steven at openmedia.co.nz sales - sales at openmedia.co.nz support - support at openmedia.co.nz website - http://www.openmedia.co.nz From hads at nice.net.nz Tue Sep 25 06:12:00 2007 From: hads at nice.net.nz (Hadley Rich) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 17:12:00 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] DVB EIT data and DST cut over In-Reply-To: <33808.192.168.0.254.1190683127.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinux.net> References: <33808.192.168.0.254.1190683127.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinux.net> Message-ID: <200709251712.00452.hads@nice.net.nz> On Tuesday 25 September 2007 13:18:47 Steven Ellis wrote: > Seeing some very odd problems with the freeview EIT data compared with > Sky's post the DST change over on Sunday > > First up most channels 1-4 are off by an hour on freeview. > > Secondly TVNZ 6 is off by 2 hours. > > Hads - How much do you know about the EIT spec. How is it supposed to > handle timezones and DST changes. Not a lot. Isn't it all in UTC so it doesn't need to do anything to handle it. > A simple example is for the Sky data for Monday has Brothers and Sisters at > channel="1032.dvb.guide"> > > Freeview has it at > channel="1036.dvb.guide"> > > Now given the fact the local system will be at +1300 for DST the Sky data > is correct, or am I missing something. The new epgsnoop handles timezones correctly, the old one doesn't really. If you look at the output from the new epgsnoop (listings-sky, listings-freeview, listings-merged on nice.net.nz/epg) then you'll see the +1300 zone start when it's meant to in the data. Looks like the freeview data is out by an hour and Sky is correct. Here's an excerpt; Brothers And Sisters [...] Brothers And Sisters [...] hads -- http://nicegear.co.nz New Zealand's VoIP supplier From steven at openmedia.co.nz Tue Sep 25 06:29:08 2007 From: steven at openmedia.co.nz (Steven Ellis) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 17:29:08 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [mythtvnz] DVB EIT data and DST cut over In-Reply-To: <200709251712.00452.hads@nice.net.nz> References: <33808.192.168.0.254.1190683127.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinux.net> <200709251712.00452.hads@nice.net.nz> Message-ID: <34848.192.168.0.254.1190698148.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinux.net> Yeah I had a dig in the EIT stream and freeview is off by an hour on most stations and by 2 on TVN6. I've just notified them. Plus their MHEG-5 EPG is wrong for TVNZ6. -------------------------------------------- Steven Ellis - Technical Director OpenMedia Limited - The Home of myPVR email - steven at openmedia.co.nz sales - sales at openmedia.co.nz support - support at openmedia.co.nz website - http://www.openmedia.co.nz From steven at openmedia.co.nz Tue Sep 25 03:54:41 2007 From: steven at openmedia.co.nz (Steven Ellis) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:54:41 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [mythtvnz] DVB EIT data and DST cut over In-Reply-To: <33808.192.168.0.254.1190683127.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinu x.net> References: <33808.192.168.0.254.1190683127.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinux.net> Message-ID: <34234.192.168.0.254.1190688881.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinux.net> On Tue, September 25, 2007 1:18 pm, Steven Ellis wrote: > > Seeing some very odd problems with the freeview EIT data compared with > Sky's post the DST change over on Sunday > > First up most channels 1-4 are off by an hour on freeview. > > Secondly TVNZ 6 is off by 2 hours. > > Hads - How much do you know about the EIT spec. How is it supposed to > handle timezones and DST changes. > > A simple example is for the Sky data for Monday has Brothers and Sisters > at > channel="1032.dvb.guide"> > > Freeview has it at > channel="1036.dvb.guide"> Ok I've now taken a poke around the EIT stream and it does look like the freeview data is poked. The EIT data is supposed to be in UTC, hence from Sunday we are UTC + 13 Brothers and Sisters for next monday shows up as follows which will be off by an hour as 21:30 NZST Event_ID: 6967 (0x1b37) Start_time: 0xd466083000 [= 2007-10-01 08:30:00 (UTC)] Duration: 0x0010000 [= 01:00:00 (UTC)] Running_status: 0 (0x00) [= undefined] Free_CA_mode: 0 (0x00) [= unscrambled] Descriptors_loop_length: 379 (0x17b) DVB-DescriptorTag: 77 (0x4d) [= short_event_descriptor] Descriptor_length: 192 (0xc0) ISO639_2_language_code: eng event_name_length: 20 (0x14) event_name: "Brothers And Sisters" -- Charset: Latin alphabet Even better is the following program on TVNZ6 which is showin up as off by 2 hours at 22:30 NZST. Event_ID: 7328 (0x1ca0) Start_time: 0xd466093000 [= 2007-10-01 09:30:00 (UTC)] Duration: 0x0010000 [= 01:00:00 (UTC)] Running_status: 0 (0x00) [= undefined] Free_CA_mode: 0 (0x00) [= unscrambled] Descriptors_loop_length: 407 (0x197) DVB-DescriptorTag: 77 (0x4d) [= short_event_descriptor] Descriptor_length: 211 (0xd3) ISO639_2_language_code: eng event_name_length: 30 (0x1e) event_name: "Rolling Stones, Truth And Lies" -- Charset: Latin alphabet Steve -------------------------------------------- Steven Ellis - Technical Director OpenMedia Limited - The Home of myPVR email - steven at openmedia.co.nz sales - sales at openmedia.co.nz support - support at openmedia.co.nz website - http://www.openmedia.co.nz From hads at nice.net.nz Tue Sep 25 07:57:56 2007 From: hads at nice.net.nz (Hadley Rich) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 18:57:56 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] Time to rescan for TVNZ6 and Triangle Stratos In-Reply-To: <46EF5413.3090407@gunk.gen.nz> References: <22107.203.163.71.197.1190080722.squirrel@webmail.stevencherie.homelinux.net> <46EF5413.3090407@gunk.gen.nz> Message-ID: <200709251857.56948.hads@nice.net.nz> On Tuesday 18 September 2007 16:29:07 Guy Lowe wrote: > Is this a good time to ask if anyone's managed to solve possible > conflicts between overnight recordings and epgsnoop?v/mythtvnz/ I do have an easy way of doing this, but it relies on MythTV.py which is only in trunk, not 0.20 so if you're using that you're out of luck for the moment. hads -- http://nicegear.co.nz New Zealand's VoIP supplier From hads at nice.net.nz Tue Sep 25 10:29:29 2007 From: hads at nice.net.nz (Hadley Rich) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:29:29 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] epgsnoop and listings update Message-ID: <200709252129.29741.hads@nice.net.nz> Hello all, I've just been making a couple of changes to epgsnoop to better accommodate grabbing from the Freeview feeds. The main thing is a configuration file and new command line option to specify the processors you want to use. The reasoning behind this is that some of the processors are specific to the Sky data so different ones will be needed for the Freeview data. It's available as a bzr branch, you can get it by issuing; bzr branch http://nice.net.nz/bzr/epgsnoop if you already have it as a branch you can update with just `bzr pull`. I've also created a new snapshot here; http://nice.net.nz/scripts/epgsnoop-snapshot-18.tar.gz I'm now running these changes on the box that provides the nice.net.nz feeds and there are a couple of new files available there. The following feeds are available; listings-sky.xml.gz - Grabbed from 12671 listings-freeview.xml.gz - Grabbed from 12483 listings-all.xml.gz - The above two files combined with tv_cat I've also updated tv_grab_nz-py to use the new listings-all file by default, of course this can be changed to whatever the user desires. By using listings-all then it's suitable for setups with Sky or Freeview or both out of the box even though it's a waste of bandwidth. hads -- http://nicegear.co.nz New Zealand's VoIP Supplier From nick.read at engineer.com Tue Sep 25 13:16:42 2007 From: nick.read at engineer.com (Nick & Ann Read) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 00:16:42 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] epgsnoop and listings update In-Reply-To: <200709252129.29741.hads@nice.net.nz> References: <200709252129.29741.hads@nice.net.nz> Message-ID: <46F8FC2A.2090203@engineer.com> Hadley Rich wrote: > By using > listings-all then it's suitable for setups with Sky or Freeview or both out > of the box even though it's a waste of bandwidth. > > hads > I'd use the freeview only one except I need Prime from the Sky listings... From matt.poff at headfirst.co.nz Tue Sep 25 21:14:03 2007 From: matt.poff at headfirst.co.nz (Matt Poff) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 08:14:03 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] OT: Cat5e sharing phone and audio - any issues? In-Reply-To: <46F595DE.1090508@igrin.co.nz> References: <46F2E6C9.6060608@headfirst.co.nz> <46F4319B.6060905@headfirst.co.nz> <46F595DE.1090508@igrin.co.nz> Message-ID: <46F96C0B.9000807@headfirst.co.nz> OK so the cabling tally at the moment is: 2x Lexcom cable to most outlets Dedicated 2-channel 14AWG speaker cable in two rooms 1x RG6 cable for HDTV in the future Is dual-shield RG6 sufficient for future-proofing HDTV? I've heard the quad is only necessary if you live in the shadow of a TV transmitter or similar? I don't want to rely on some distributed audio solution running over the Lexcom nor do I want to be limited to using active speakers at outlets, hence the speaker cable. These rooms are unlikely to require 5:1 audio in future but at a pinch I could add rear speaker outlets using a HomePlug transmitter/receiver and active speakers run over the mains cable. Does this sound like a good plan? -- Matt Poff - Director HEADFIRST LTD Web Developers Engaging | Useful | Works Email: matt.poff at headfirst.co.nz Ph: 64 4 477 6075 Mob: 027 229 9584 http://www.headfirst.co.nz From noel at igrin.co.nz Tue Sep 25 21:39:49 2007 From: noel at igrin.co.nz (Noel & Di) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 08:39:49 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] OT: Cat5e sharing phone and audio - any issues? In-Reply-To: <46F96C0B.9000807@headfirst.co.nz> References: <46F2E6C9.6060608@headfirst.co.nz> <46F4319B.6060905@headfirst.co.nz> <46F595DE.1090508@igrin.co.nz> <46F96C0B.9000807@headfirst.co.nz> Message-ID: <46F97215.7040202@igrin.co.nz> I made the change to Lexcom cable to get away from using RG6 and separate audio because it's shielded & cat5e is not. Only comment is make sure your speaker cable is shielded or it will pick up interference. Matt Poff wrote: >OK so the cabling tally at the moment is: > >2x Lexcom cable to most outlets >Dedicated 2-channel 14AWG speaker cable in two rooms >1x RG6 cable for HDTV in the future > >Is dual-shield RG6 sufficient for future-proofing HDTV? I've heard the >quad is only necessary if you live in the shadow of a TV transmitter or >similar? > >I don't want to rely on some distributed audio solution running over the >Lexcom nor do I want to be limited to using active speakers at outlets, >hence the speaker cable. > >These rooms are unlikely to require 5:1 audio in future but at a pinch I >could add rear speaker outlets using a HomePlug transmitter/receiver >and active speakers run over the mains cable. > >Does this sound like a good plan? > > > From matt.poff at headfirst.co.nz Tue Sep 25 21:49:47 2007 From: matt.poff at headfirst.co.nz (Matt Poff) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 08:49:47 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] OT: Cat5e sharing phone and audio - any issues? In-Reply-To: <46F97215.7040202@igrin.co.nz> References: <46F2E6C9.6060608@headfirst.co.nz> <46F4319B.6060905@headfirst.co.nz> <46F595DE.1090508@igrin.co.nz> <46F96C0B.9000807@headfirst.co.nz> <46F97215.7040202@igrin.co.nz> Message-ID: <46F9746B.60100@headfirst.co.nz> I gather the Lexcom is only rated to 900MHz though and HDTV requires 2.2GHz minimum? Or are you just planning to distribute HDTV feeds as data from the MythBox? I thought it might be wise to have the option of distributing TV signal as well as streamed video data for flexibility. Yep, I'll run the speaker cable separate to the others to avoid interference (won't be able to get it all in a 25mm conduit anyway). Cheers, Matt Noel & Di wrote: > I made the change to Lexcom cable to get away from using RG6 and > separate audio because it's shielded & cat5e is not. > Only comment is make sure your speaker cable is shielded or it will pick > up interference. > > Matt Poff wrote: > > >> OK so the cabling tally at the moment is: >> >> 2x Lexcom cable to most outlets >> Dedicated 2-channel 14AWG speaker cable in two rooms >> 1x RG6 cable for HDTV in the future >> >> Is dual-shield RG6 sufficient for future-proofing HDTV? I've heard the >> quad is only necessary if you live in the shadow of a TV transmitter or >> similar? >> >> I don't want to rely on some distributed audio solution running over the >> Lexcom nor do I want to be limited to using active speakers at outlets, >> hence the speaker cable. >> >> These rooms are unlikely to require 5:1 audio in future but at a pinch I >> could add rear speaker outlets using a HomePlug transmitter/receiver >> and active speakers run over the mains cable. >> >> Does this sound like a good plan? >> >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > mythtvnz mailing list > mythtvnz at lists.linuxnut.co.nz > http://lists.ourshack.com/mailman/listinfo/mythtvnz > Archives http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/mythtvnz/ > > From criggie at criggie.dyndns.org Tue Sep 25 21:51:50 2007 From: criggie at criggie.dyndns.org (Criggie) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 08:51:50 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [mythtvnz] OT: Cat5e sharing phone and audio - any issues? In-Reply-To: <46F96C0B.9000807@headfirst.co.nz> References: <46F2E6C9.6060608@headfirst.co.nz> <46F4319B.6060905@headfirst.co.nz> <46F595DE.1090508@igrin.co.nz> <46F96C0B.9000807@headfirst.co.nz> Message-ID: <1982.10.28.1.2.1190753510.squirrel@criggie.dyndns.org> Matt Poff wrote: > Does this sound like a good plan? If you're really not sure about what you want, ensure there's a way to get new cable to those locations in the future. You could put a piece of non-rotting string (wire or fishing line) through a hole in the bottom plate to act as a draw string. If you've got a concrete floor pad then you'll have to go up into the roof space. Remember to pack any holes to keep mice/draughts out and heat in. You could put the draw string through a conduit made from cheap plastic pipe, but you don't want to be drilling excessively big holes through the framing and weakening your walls. This will be required if you have insulation in those walls, (sound or heat.) Of course you need to mark all these locations accurately on a plan of your house, so that you can find them again later. -- Criggie http://criggie.dyndns.org/ From johanschuld at gmail.com Wed Sep 26 06:30:26 2007 From: johanschuld at gmail.com (Johan Schuld) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 17:30:26 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] epgsnoop and listings update Message-ID: <51d84c760709252230l3e873ac0j73c2dfafcacbb315@mail.gmail.com> Hi there, Forgive me if I ask a stupid question, but I have not been able to find an answer yet. I'm still "only" in the Terestial TV stage, so I am a happy user of the EPG you guys provide in XML. I was going to create some script which filters out the channels that I can actually receive. This way the database is just nice and clean and does not contain all the sky data. and it makes recording programs much easier. Now before I re-invent the wheel, I was wondering if such a thing already exists. Cheers, Johan From hads at nice.net.nz Wed Sep 26 06:43:31 2007 From: hads at nice.net.nz (Hadley Rich) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 17:43:31 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] epgsnoop and listings update In-Reply-To: <51d84c760709252230l3e873ac0j73c2dfafcacbb315@mail.gmail.com> References: <51d84c760709252230l3e873ac0j73c2dfafcacbb315@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200709261743.31932.hads@nice.net.nz> On Wednesday 26 September 2007 17:30:26 Johan Schuld wrote: > Hi there, > > Forgive me if I ask a stupid question, but I have not been able to > find an answer yet. > > I'm still "only" in the Terestial TV stage, so I am a happy user of > the EPG you guys provide in XML. I was going to create some script > which filters out the channels that I can actually receive. This way > the database is just nice and clean and does not contain all the sky > data. and it makes recording programs much easier. > > Now before I re-invent the wheel, I was wondering if such a thing > already exists. This is what tv_grab_nz-py does. If you don't have a new enough version of myth (>= 0.20.2) then you can use it manually but it does work well with mythfilldatabase. If you want to use it manually, run; tv_grab_nz-py --configure Answer the questions about all the channels you want (or don't want) data for. then just run; tv_grab_nz-py > my_listings.xml That should do it. You'll want the newest version with the listings URL set to listings-all by default if you have prime. If you're only using the channels that are available on freeview then you can change the URL to listings-freeview to save some bandwidth. hads -- http://nicegear.co.nz New Zealand's VoIP supplier From noel at igrin.co.nz Wed Sep 26 06:57:39 2007 From: noel at igrin.co.nz (Noel & Di) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 17:57:39 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] OT: Cat5e sharing phone and audio - any issues? In-Reply-To: <46F9746B.60100@headfirst.co.nz> References: <46F2E6C9.6060608@headfirst.co.nz> <46F4319B.6060905@headfirst.co.nz> <46F595DE.1090508@igrin.co.nz> <46F96C0B.9000807@headfirst.co.nz> <46F97215.7040202@igrin.co.nz> <46F9746B.60100@headfirst.co.nz> Message-ID: <46F9F4D3.4010907@igrin.co.nz> I am currently sending video encoded signal along my lexcom cable. I have six multiplexed UHF channels (ex mythbox, 2 SAT receivers, terestrial antennae, a DVDs and a VCR) with no interferance. I found Lexcomm cable less bulky, and easier to make off at the wall plate than RG6 and cat 5, plus it's tidier in the patch panel too. Matt Poff wrote: >I gather the Lexcom is only rated to 900MHz though and HDTV requires >2.2GHz minimum? Or are you just planning to distribute HDTV feeds as >data from the MythBox? I thought it might be wise to have the option of >distributing TV signal as well as streamed video data for flexibility. > >Yep, I'll run the speaker cable separate to the others to avoid >interference (won't be able to get it all in a 25mm conduit anyway). > >Cheers, >Matt > >Noel & Di wrote: > > >>I made the change to Lexcom cable to get away from using RG6 and >>separate audio because it's shielded & cat5e is not. >>Only comment is make sure your speaker cable is shielded or it will pick >>up interference. >> >>Matt Poff wrote: >> >> >> >> >>>OK so the cabling tally at the moment is: >>> >>>2x Lexcom cable to most outlets >>>Dedicated 2-channel 14AWG speaker cable in two rooms >>>1x RG6 cable for HDTV in the future >>> >>>Is dual-shield RG6 sufficient for future-proofing HDTV? I've heard the >>>quad is only necessary if you live in the shadow of a TV transmitter or >>>similar? >>> >>>I don't want to rely on some distributed audio solution running over the >>>Lexcom nor do I want to be limited to using active speakers at outlets, >>>hence the speaker cable. >>> >>>These rooms are unlikely to require 5:1 audio in future but at a pinch I >>>could add rear speaker outlets using a HomePlug transmitter/receiver >>>and active speakers run over the mains cable. >>> >>>Does this sound like a good plan? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>mythtvnz mailing list >>mythtvnz at lists.linuxnut.co.nz >>http://lists.ourshack.com/mailman/listinfo/mythtvnz >>Archives http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/mythtvnz/ >> >> >> >> > > >_______________________________________________ >mythtvnz mailing list >mythtvnz at lists.linuxnut.co.nz >http://lists.ourshack.com/mailman/listinfo/mythtvnz >Archives http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/mythtvnz/ > > > > From mythtvnz at hotblack.co.nz Wed Sep 26 06:40:30 2007 From: mythtvnz at hotblack.co.nz (Wade Maxfield) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 17:40:30 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] epgsnoop and listings update In-Reply-To: <51d84c760709252230l3e873ac0j73c2dfafcacbb315@mail.gmail.com> References: <51d84c760709252230l3e873ac0j73c2dfafcacbb315@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: >Hi there, > >Forgive me if I ask a stupid question, but I have not been able to >find an answer yet. > >I'm still "only" in the Terestial TV stage, so I am a happy user of >the EPG you guys provide in XML. I was going to create some script >which filters out the channels that I can actually receive. This way >the database is just nice and clean and does not contain all the sky >data. and it makes recording programs much easier. > >Now before I re-invent the wheel, I was wondering if such a thing >already exists. > >Cheers, >Johan > I haven't seen such a script, but remove the channels you don't want from your channel line up, and then mythfilldatabase will only import program data for the channels you have. Or if you don't want to go that far, just set the channels you don't have access to, to not visible. Then they won't appear in your Schedule recordings screens. - Wade From steven at openmedia.co.nz Wed Sep 26 08:26:37 2007 From: steven at openmedia.co.nz (Steven Ellis) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:26:37 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] epgsnoop and listings update In-Reply-To: References: <51d84c760709252230l3e873ac0j73c2dfafcacbb315@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46FA09AD.8070701@openmedia.co.nz> Wade Maxfield wrote: >> Hi there, >> >> Forgive me if I ask a stupid question, but I have not been able to >> find an answer yet. >> >> I'm still "only" in the Terestial TV stage, so I am a happy user of >> the EPG you guys provide in XML. I was going to create some script >> which filters out the channels that I can actually receive. This way >> the database is just nice and clean and does not contain all the sky >> data. and it makes recording programs much easier. >> >> Now before I re-invent the wheel, I was wondering if such a thing >> already exists. >> >> Cheers, >> Johan >> >> > > I haven't seen such a script, but remove the channels you don't want > from your channel line up, and then mythfilldatabase will only import > program data for the channels you have. > > Or if you don't want to go that far, just set the channels you don't > have access to, to not visible. Then they won't appear in your > Schedule recordings screens. > > If you run mythfilldatabase automatically on the schedule it usually adds in any channels included in the XMLTV stream Steve -- Steven Ellis - Technical Director OpenMedia Limited email - steven at openmedia.co.nz sales - sales at openmedia.co.nz support - support at openmedia.co.nz website - http://www.openmedia.co.nz From stevehodge at gmail.com Wed Sep 26 08:38:42 2007 From: stevehodge at gmail.com (Steve Hodge) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:38:42 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] epgsnoop and listings update In-Reply-To: <46FA09AD.8070701@openmedia.co.nz> References: <51d84c760709252230l3e873ac0j73c2dfafcacbb315@mail.gmail.com> <46FA09AD.8070701@openmedia.co.nz> Message-ID: <24b589d90709260038l120b3fadqe46831b1f27a7e67@mail.gmail.com> On 9/26/07, Steven Ellis wrote: > > Wade Maxfield wrote: > > I haven't seen such a script, but remove the channels you don't want > > from your channel line up, and then mythfilldatabase will only import > > program data for the channels you have. > > > If you run mythfilldatabase automatically on the schedule it usually > adds in any channels included in the XMLTV stream There's a command line option to prevent that (-update?) Cheers, Steve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ourshack.com/pipermail/mythtvnz/attachments/20070926/e4cac8df/attachment.htm From yuridg at gmail.com Wed Sep 26 10:03:14 2007 From: yuridg at gmail.com (yuri) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:03:14 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] OT: Cat5e sharing phone and audio - any issues? In-Reply-To: <1982.10.28.1.2.1190753510.squirrel@criggie.dyndns.org> References: <46F2E6C9.6060608@headfirst.co.nz> <46F4319B.6060905@headfirst.co.nz> <46F595DE.1090508@igrin.co.nz> <46F96C0B.9000807@headfirst.co.nz> <1982.10.28.1.2.1190753510.squirrel@criggie.dyndns.org> Message-ID: On 26/09/2007, Criggie wrote: > you don't want to be drilling excessively big holes through the > framing and weakening your walls. You can safely drill up to one third width in the centre of the timber. EG in 90 by 45 mm framing you can drill up to 30mm hole safely without undermining the structural integrity of your house. Yuri From matt.poff at headfirst.co.nz Wed Sep 26 10:15:19 2007 From: matt.poff at headfirst.co.nz (Matt Poff) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:15:19 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] OT: Cat5e sharing phone and audio - any issues? In-Reply-To: References: <46F2E6C9.6060608@headfirst.co.nz> <46F4319B.6060905@headfirst.co.nz> <46F595DE.1090508@igrin.co.nz> <46F96C0B.9000807@headfirst.co.nz> <1982.10.28.1.2.1190753510.squirrel@criggie.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <46FA2327.90502@headfirst.co.nz> Right. Hopefully shouldn't need to drill through too many studs as most of the walls are 100 years old, balloon framed without nogs but cladded in sarking. I'll just feed a number of vertical drops of 25mm corrugated PVC conduit from the roof space, so mostly just drilling holes through the top plate and never more than two of these on any one wall. Any recommendations on spacing of saddle straps for fixing conduit to the framing? I'd like to fix it as I may pull additional cable through in the future and don't want the conduit moving around when I do this. I could just wrap electrical tape around the conduit and stud on the new internal wall but obviously not possible on the existing external walls. yuri wrote: > On 26/09/2007, Criggie wrote: > >> you don't want to be drilling excessively big holes through the >> framing and weakening your walls. >> > > You can safely drill up to one third width in the centre of the timber. > EG in 90 by 45 mm framing you can drill up to 30mm hole safely without > undermining the structural integrity of your house. > > Yuri > > _______________________________________________ > mythtvnz mailing list > mythtvnz at lists.linuxnut.co.nz > http://lists.ourshack.com/mailman/listinfo/mythtvnz > Archives http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/mythtvnz/ > > -- Matt Poff - Director HEADFIRST LTD Web Developers Engaging | Useful | Works Email: matt.poff at headfirst.co.nz Ph: 64 4 477 6075 Mob: 027 229 9584 http://www.headfirst.co.nz From criggie at criggie.dyndns.org Wed Sep 26 10:31:10 2007 From: criggie at criggie.dyndns.org (Criggie) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:31:10 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [mythtvnz] OT: Cat5e sharing phone and audio - any issues? In-Reply-To: References: <46F2E6C9.6060608@headfirst.co.nz> <46F4319B.6060905@headfirst.co.nz> <46F595DE.1090508@igrin.co.nz> <46F96C0B.9000807@headfirst.co.nz> <1982.10.28.1.2.1190753510.squirrel@criggie.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <52596.10.28.2.9.1190799070.squirrel@criggie.dyndns.org> yuri wrote: > On 26/09/2007, Criggie wrote: >> you don't want to be drilling excessively big holes through the >> framing and weakening your walls. > > You can safely drill up to one third width in the centre of the timber. > EG in 90 by 45 mm framing you can drill up to 30mm hole safely without > undermining the structural integrity of your house. True - or double the dwang. -- Criggie http://criggie.dyndns.org/ From noel at igrin.co.nz Wed Sep 26 21:10:17 2007 From: noel at igrin.co.nz (Noel & Di) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 08:10:17 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] OT: Cat5e sharing phone and audio - any issues? In-Reply-To: <46FA2327.90502@headfirst.co.nz> References: <46F2E6C9.6060608@headfirst.co.nz> <46F4319B.6060905@headfirst.co.nz> <46F595DE.1090508@igrin.co.nz> <46F96C0B.9000807@headfirst.co.nz> <1982.10.28.1.2.1190753510.squirrel@criggie.dyndns.org> <46FA2327.90502@headfirst.co.nz> Message-ID: <46FABCA9.2090100@igrin.co.nz> Make sure you leave a substantial draw wire (Not nylon or builder's line) in the cc25. I use either 2.5mm conduit wire, or an offcuts of cat5 with a fig8 knot in either end to ID it. You could dispense with the conduit in the walls if you've got a sarked wall - sparkie's tip follows... drill a 25mm hole where you want your wall plate (pref next to a stud) & then set a torch to shine into this hole, go into the ceiling & drill a hole in the top plate next to (& on the same side as) the stud 20mm is a good size that doesn't make the battery drill work too hard - use the nails in the top plate as a guide to where the studs are. Then drill a SECOND hole about 70mm from this as a "looking hole" angle it slightly towards the torch below. When you peer down this you will see the torch light below(hopefully). About 50mm back from the end of your cable make a 90 degree bend, then pop it into the wire-hole. Observe it's decent through the "looking hole" & when it's near the target you'll see it illuminated by the torch light. Rotate the cable till the "tail" pokes out the torch hole. It's easier if you have a fisher-person at the bottom with a hook-wire otherwise it's allot of climbing up & down. Now feed the conduit over the cable using it as a guide - from the top is easier. Personally I'd not use the conduit inside the wall & use the wooden cavity of the wall itself as mechanical protection for the cable. Good luck & may your roof be clear of cobwebs & rodent bodies! Matt Poff wrote: >Right. Hopefully shouldn't need to drill through too many studs as most >of the walls are 100 years old, balloon framed without nogs but cladded >in sarking. I'll just feed a number of vertical drops of 25mm corrugated >PVC conduit from the roof space, so mostly just drilling holes through >the top plate and never more than two of these on any one wall. > >Any recommendations on spacing of saddle straps for fixing conduit to >the framing? I'd like to fix it as I may pull additional cable through >in the future and don't want the conduit moving around when I do this. I >could just wrap electrical tape around the conduit and stud on the new >internal wall but obviously not possible on the existing external walls. > > >yuri wrote: > > >>On 26/09/2007, Criggie wrote: >> >> >> >>>you don't want to be drilling excessively big holes through the >>>framing and weakening your walls. >>> >>> >>> >>You can safely drill up to one third width in the centre of the timber. >>EG in 90 by 45 mm framing you can drill up to 30mm hole safely without >>undermining the structural integrity of your house. >> >>Yuri >> >>_______________________________________________ >>mythtvnz mailing list >>mythtvnz at lists.linuxnut.co.nz >>http://lists.ourshack.com/mailman/listinfo/mythtvnz >>Archives http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/mythtvnz/ >> >> >> >> > > > > From matt.poff at headfirst.co.nz Wed Sep 26 21:35:47 2007 From: matt.poff at headfirst.co.nz (Matt Poff) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 08:35:47 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] OT: Cat5e sharing phone and audio - any issues? In-Reply-To: <46FABCA9.2090100@igrin.co.nz> References: <46F2E6C9.6060608@headfirst.co.nz> <46F4319B.6060905@headfirst.co.nz> <46F595DE.1090508@igrin.co.nz> <46F96C0B.9000807@headfirst.co.nz> <1982.10.28.1.2.1190753510.squirrel@criggie.dyndns.org> <46FA2327.90502@headfirst.co.nz> <46FABCA9.2090100@igrin.co.nz> Message-ID: <46FAC2A3.30107@headfirst.co.nz> Great tip cheers! Always surprised where sparkies can feed cable blind - now I know the secret. It' s actually not going to be too bad in this case because I've got to remove some of the sarking anyway to put some insulation in. Thankfully I've already carted about four rubbish bags of rats nests, dessicated rats and their droppings when I put insulation in the roof (probably the worst job I've had to do, especially when you add in the rusty roofing nails poking through the roof sarking). Found a living Wellington tree weta in one of the old walls when I took out a window so who knows! I'll take your advice and give the conduit a miss. Thought it might be useful if there's insulation in the wall too but, in all honesty with the cabling set-up I'm putting in now I'll be a bit surprised if I have to run additional services in the future. Matt Noel & Di wrote: > Make sure you leave a substantial draw wire (Not nylon or builder's > line) in the cc25. I use either 2.5mm conduit wire, or an offcuts of > cat5 with a fig8 knot in either end to ID it. You could dispense with > the conduit in the walls if you've got a sarked wall - sparkie's tip > follows... > drill a 25mm hole where you want your wall plate (pref next to a stud) & > then set a torch to shine into this hole, go into the ceiling & drill a > hole in the top plate next to (& on the same side as) the stud 20mm is a > good size that doesn't make the battery drill work too hard - use the > nails in the top plate as a guide to where the studs are. Then drill a > SECOND hole about 70mm from this as a "looking hole" angle it slightly > towards the torch below. When you peer down this you will see the torch > light below(hopefully). About 50mm back from the end of your cable make > a 90 degree bend, then pop it into the wire-hole. Observe it's decent > through the "looking hole" & when it's near the target you'll see it > illuminated by the torch light. Rotate the cable till the "tail" pokes > out the torch hole. It's easier if you have a fisher-person at the > bottom with a hook-wire otherwise it's allot of climbing up & down. Now > feed the conduit over the cable using it as a guide - from the top is > easier. Personally I'd not use the conduit inside the wall & use the > wooden cavity of the wall itself as mechanical protection for the cable. > Good luck & may your roof be clear of cobwebs & rodent bodies! > > Matt Poff wrote: > > >> Right. Hopefully shouldn't need to drill through too many studs as most >> of the walls are 100 years old, balloon framed without nogs but cladded >> in sarking. I'll just feed a number of vertical drops of 25mm corrugated >> PVC conduit from the roof space, so mostly just drilling holes through >> the top plate and never more than two of these on any one wall. >> >> Any recommendations on spacing of saddle straps for fixing conduit to >> the framing? I'd like to fix it as I may pull additional cable through >> in the future and don't want the conduit moving around when I do this. I >> could just wrap electrical tape around the conduit and stud on the new >> internal wall but obviously not possible on the existing external walls. >> >> >> yuri wrote: >> >> >> >>> On 26/09/2007, Criggie wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> you don't want to be drilling excessively big holes through the >>>> framing and weakening your walls. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> You can safely drill up to one third width in the centre of the timber. >>> EG in 90 by 45 mm framing you can drill up to 30mm hole safely without >>> undermining the structural integrity of your house. >>> >>> Yuri >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> mythtvnz mailing list >>> mythtvnz at lists.linuxnut.co.nz >>> http://lists.ourshack.com/mailman/listinfo/mythtvnz >>> Archives http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/mythtvnz/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > mythtvnz mailing list > mythtvnz at lists.linuxnut.co.nz > http://lists.ourshack.com/mailman/listinfo/mythtvnz > Archives http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/mythtvnz/ > > From lennon at orcon.net.nz Fri Sep 28 06:14:10 2007 From: lennon at orcon.net.nz (Craig Whitmore) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:14:10 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] TVNZ announces High Definition plans Message-ID: <1B7EEE5A66464F6887E75F7177FCB58A@office.orcon.net.nz> Taken from: http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/1318241/1382873 TVNZ will bring New Zealanders the Beijing Olympics in High Definition TV on TV ONE. The company will invest in the technology infrastructure to introduce both TV ONE and TV2 in High Definition on the Freeview Digital Terrestrial platform (DTT) platform by July 2008, in time for the Olympics in August. HDTV gives viewers the highest quality picture available, together with surround sound. On the Freeview DTT platform, TVNZ expects to provide about 50% of peak time content on TV ONE in HD, and 80% on TV2. This will grow progressively as local content producers gear up to make programmes in HD. TVNZ Chief Executive Rick Ellis says the decision puts TVNZ in an industry leadership position in a rapidly changing digital world. "This is a tremendously exciting step. To be able to provide the Beijing Olympics in HD is a first for New Zealand and will be a spectacular experience for viewers," he said. Viewers will need an HD-ready TV set and a Freeview DTT set top box to receive the HD broadcasts. HD-ready TV sets are available from electronics retailers now, and Freeview DTT set top boxes will be available early next year. FAQs When is this happening? We are targeting July 2008, in advance of the Beijing Olympics in August 2008. What is special about HDTV? It gives you the highest quality picture available, it comes with surround sound, and broadcasters around the world are now planning to introduce it, or have already done so. It gives you the most 'real' visual experience possible. How much HD content will there be? Most international content is already available in HD. In peak time, TV ONE will carry about 50% HD and TV2 will carry about 80%. We expect the amount of local content in HD to grow progressively over the next few years as TVNZ and the local production industry gear up for it. Will there be a sharp distinction between HD and SD content? Within the HD channels, material that is not produced in HD (ie SD material) will be upconverted to minimise the difference in quality. There will be a difference in quality between the HD channels (TV ONE and TV2) and the SD (standard definition) channels (TVNZ6, TVNZ7 and Sport Extra). Will there be Surround Sound? Yes. Wherever it's available, we will broadcast it. Where can I find the HD channels? TV ONE and TV2 will broadcast in HD on the Freeview Digital Terrestrial (DTT) platform. What do I need to receive them? An HD-ready TV set and a Freeview DTT set top box. Viewers will be able to buy a Freeview DTT set top box early next year The Freeview Digital Terrestrial (DTT) platform goes live in March/April 08. Will you broadcast in HD from the start? No, but the Freeview DTT Set Top Box will be HD capable from day one and ready to receive. Do I need a new TV? TV sets sold recently as 'HD ready' will be able to take advantage of these services, providing the viewer purchases a Freeview DTT set top box when they become available in retail stores. It's expected they will be available by April next year. Will it be on Freeview DTH (satellite)? No. Freeview's satellite platform was launched using MPEG 2 technology because when planning began, MPEG 4 compression technology was not mature. From the consumers' perspective, Freeview DTH is the lowest cost entry into Free-to-Air digital television reception. HD will be a point of difference for the terrestrial platform. Will it be on SKY? No. Why did you choose the 720p standard? It's the standard that's most compatible with the new flat panel display technologies, and 'progressive scan' the way the world is heading. It's also the standard recommended by the European Broadcasting Union. If other broadcasters choose a different HDTV format, will there be a problem for consumers? No. The Freeview Set Top Box specifications provide for reception of both 720p and 1080i. What bit rate will you be using? We will be statistical multiplexing the video of 2HD channels with 3 SD channels, in 23 megabits per second, using the latest MPEG 4 compression technology - H.246 ABC. Why have you brought HDTV forward? Our first priority under our 5 year strategy "Inspiring New Zealanders on Every Screen" was to get our new platforms and channels underway. With TVNZ6 now about to launch, there was an opportunity to review our proposed timeline for HD. Technology is moving rapidly and costs have dropped dramatically, and our review showed we could advance our plans and accommodate the cost within our existing business plans. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm heart broken ;)* -- Steven Ellis - Technical Director OpenMedia Limited email - steven at openmedia.co.nz sales - sales at openmedia.co.nz support - support at openmedia.co.nz website - http://www.openmedia.co.nz From nzruss at gmail.com Fri Sep 28 14:28:06 2007 From: nzruss at gmail.com (NZ Russ) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 08:28:06 -0500 Subject: [mythtvnz] TVNZ announces High Definition plans Message-ID: <66a3fee00709280628i76b1f6ebh687e32db09cc10de@mail.gmail.com> Soooo, the big question is: --->>> What is the best hardware for our Mythtv Setups to get teh HD? <<<---- I'm not familiar enough to with all this... Is DTT DVB-T / DVB-MT? (i.enot ATSC) I'm guessing its just the addition of a PCI card, and am super interested in which is the best for the job. Apologies if someones already answered this one, but i've been away for a few weeks and haven't had a chance to trawl through the mailing lists. Cheers, Russ. Viewers will need an HD-ready TV set and a Freeview DTT set top box to > receive the HD broadcasts. > > What do I need to receive them? > An HD-ready TV set and a Freeview DTT set top box. Viewers will be able to > buy a Freeview DTT set top box early next year > > Will it be on Freeview DTH (satellite)? > No. Freeview's satellite platform was launched using MPEG 2 technology > because when planning began, MPEG 4 compression technology was not mature. > > What bit rate will you be using? > We will be statistical multiplexing the video of 2HD channels with 3 SD > channels, in 23 megabits per second, using the latest MPEG 4 compression > technology - H.246 ABC. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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NZ Russ wrote: > Soooo, the big question is: > > --->>> What is the best hardware for our Mythtv Setups to get teh HD? > <<<---- > > I'm not familiar enough to with all this... Is DTT DVB-T / DVB-MT? > (i.e not ATSC) > > I'm guessing its just the addition of a PCI card, and am super > interested in which is the best for the job. From steven at openmedia.co.nz Sat Sep 29 00:18:33 2007 From: steven at openmedia.co.nz (Steven Ellis) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 11:18:33 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] TVNZ announces High Definition plans In-Reply-To: <46FD501B.8080607@headfirst.co.nz> References: <66a3fee00709280628i76b1f6ebh687e32db09cc10de@mail.gmail.com> <46FD501B.8080607@headfirst.co.nz> Message-ID: <46FD8BC9.5050103@openmedia.co.nz> Matt Poff wrote: > Another big question is whether these feeds will use some form of > encoding which authorised Freeview set-top boxes will understand and PCs > won't... in which case I guess it's component out (or optical) to a pci > card. Even then, is it only a matter of time before the display > device itself (i.e. the HD TV will need to decode a stream)? > > In my case UHF reception here is rubbish anyway so it's a moot point! > > I've been speaking to Steve Browning and the word is it will be plain vanilla DVB-T. So no issue performing capture on MythTV. Plus if you capture off an "official" STB you will have to capture at SD because of HDCP on the HDMI connection. Steve -- Steven Ellis - Technical Director OpenMedia Limited email - steven at openmedia.co.nz sales - sales at openmedia.co.nz support - support at openmedia.co.nz website - http://www.openmedia.co.nz From daniel.mckenzie at gmail.com Sat Sep 29 00:49:13 2007 From: daniel.mckenzie at gmail.com (Daniel McKenzie) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 11:49:13 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] TVNZ announces High Definition plans References: <66a3fee00709280628i76b1f6ebh687e32db09cc10de@mail.gmail.com><46FD501B.8080607@headfirst.co.nz> <46FD8BC9.5050103@openmedia.co.nz> Message-ID: <73E371CBD07A4595A9AE1EC90AFF6C71@danieldesktop> I read on a hairy.geek.nz that EIT data isn't going to be included on DVB-T. Is that true? Daniel McKenzie http://www.daniels.net.nz -------------------------------------------------- From: "Steven Ellis" Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 11:18 AM To: "MythTV in NZ" Subject: Re: [mythtvnz] TVNZ announces High Definition plans > Matt Poff wrote: >> Another big question is whether these feeds will use some form of >> encoding which authorised Freeview set-top boxes will understand and PCs >> won't... in which case I guess it's component out (or optical) to a pci >> card. Even then, is it only a matter of time before the display >> device itself (i.e. the HD TV will need to decode a stream)? >> >> In my case UHF reception here is rubbish anyway so it's a moot point! >> >> > I've been speaking to Steve Browning and the word is it will be plain > vanilla DVB-T. So no issue performing capture on MythTV. > > Plus if you capture off an "official" STB you will have to capture at SD > because of HDCP on the HDMI connection. > > Steve > > -- > Steven Ellis - Technical Director > OpenMedia Limited > email - steven at openmedia.co.nz > sales - sales at openmedia.co.nz > support - support at openmedia.co.nz > website - http://www.openmedia.co.nz > > > _______________________________________________ > mythtvnz mailing list > mythtvnz at lists.linuxnut.co.nz > http://lists.ourshack.com/mailman/listinfo/mythtvnz > Archives http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/mythtvnz/ From andrew at etc.gen.nz Sat Sep 29 00:50:27 2007 From: andrew at etc.gen.nz (Andrew Ruthven) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 11:50:27 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] epgsnoop and listings update In-Reply-To: <24b589d90709260038l120b3fadqe46831b1f27a7e67@mail.gmail.com> References: <51d84c760709252230l3e873ac0j73c2dfafcacbb315@mail.gmail.com> <46FA09AD.8070701@openmedia.co.nz> <24b589d90709260038l120b3fadqe46831b1f27a7e67@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1191023427.5132.2.camel@cyclops.etc.gen.nz> On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 19:38 +1200, Steve Hodge wrote: > On 9/26/07, Steven Ellis wrote: > Wade Maxfield wrote: > > I haven't seen such a script, but remove the channels you > don't want > > from your channel line up, and then mythfilldatabase will > only import > > program data for the channels you have. > > > If you run mythfilldatabase automatically on the schedule it > usually > adds in any channels included in the XMLTV stream > > There's a command line option to prevent that (-update?) I've been using that option for the last few weeks and it doesn't work. It has still readded the Sky channels even though I removed them. :( Cheers! -- Andrew Ruthven Wellington, New Zealand At home: andrew at etc.gen.nz | This space intentionally | left blank. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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You might try contacting freeview to get an answer. -- Steven Ellis - Technical Director OpenMedia Limited email - steven at openmedia.co.nz sales - sales at openmedia.co.nz support - support at openmedia.co.nz website - http://www.openmedia.co.nz From simon at simongreen.net Sat Sep 29 01:51:13 2007 From: simon at simongreen.net (Simon Green) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 12:51:13 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] TVNZ announces High Definition plans In-Reply-To: <46FD9B8C.5040704@openmedia.co.nz> References: <66a3fee00709280628i76b1f6ebh687e32db09cc10de@mail.gmail.com> <46FD501B.8080607@headfirst.co.nz> <46FD8BC9.5050103@openmedia.co.nz> <73E371CBD07A4595A9AE1EC90AFF6C71@danieldesktop> <46FD9B8C.5040704@openmedia.co.nz> Message-ID: On 29/09/2007, Steven Ellis wrote: > Daniel McKenzie wrote: > > I read on a hairy.geek.nz that EIT data isn't going to be included on DVB-T. > > Is that true? > > > Nothing official on that. You might try contacting freeview to get an > answer. While I don't know anything official, I'd be suprised if this is the case. One of the big plus to freeview is having an EPG. It's available on DVB-S currently. -- simon From stevehodge at gmail.com Sat Sep 29 02:48:09 2007 From: stevehodge at gmail.com (Steve Hodge) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 13:48:09 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] epgsnoop and listings update In-Reply-To: <1191023427.5132.2.camel@cyclops.etc.gen.nz> References: <51d84c760709252230l3e873ac0j73c2dfafcacbb315@mail.gmail.com> <46FA09AD.8070701@openmedia.co.nz> <24b589d90709260038l120b3fadqe46831b1f27a7e67@mail.gmail.com> <1191023427.5132.2.camel@cyclops.etc.gen.nz> Message-ID: <24b589d90709281848h2bd06952o5ff2032c8ec3f4ab@mail.gmail.com> On 9/29/07, Andrew Ruthven wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 19:38 +1200, Steve Hodge wrote: > > There's a command line option to prevent that (-update?) > > I've been using that option for the last few weeks and it doesn't work. > > It has still readded the Sky channels even though I removed them. :( I haven't seen that. 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It's available > on DVB-S currently. > > The EIT EPG isn't the official freeview one, the MHEG-5 one is. They will still be providing an MHEG-5 one on DTT, and it isn't that difficult to produce XMLTV data off MHEG-5. Steve -- Steven Ellis - Technical Director OpenMedia Limited email - steven at openmedia.co.nz sales - sales at openmedia.co.nz support - support at openmedia.co.nz website - http://www.openmedia.co.nz From andrew at etc.gen.nz Sat Sep 29 03:12:24 2007 From: andrew at etc.gen.nz (Andrew Ruthven) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 14:12:24 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] epgsnoop and listings update In-Reply-To: <24b589d90709281848h2bd06952o5ff2032c8ec3f4ab@mail.gmail.com> References: <51d84c760709252230l3e873ac0j73c2dfafcacbb315@mail.gmail.com> <46FA09AD.8070701@openmedia.co.nz> <24b589d90709260038l120b3fadqe46831b1f27a7e67@mail.gmail.com> <1191023427.5132.2.camel@cyclops.etc.gen.nz> <24b589d90709281848h2bd06952o5ff2032c8ec3f4ab@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1191031944.5132.6.camel@cyclops.etc.gen.nz> On Sat, 2007-09-29 at 13:48 +1200, Steve Hodge wrote: > On 9/29/07, Andrew Ruthven wrote: > On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 19:38 +1200, Steve Hodge wrote: > > There's a command line option to prevent that (-update?) > > I've been using that option for the last few weeks and it > doesn't work. > > It has still readded the Sky channels even though I removed > them. :( > > I haven't seen that. The line I'm using (which doesn't add missing > channels) is: > mythfilldatabase --update --file 1 -1 /home/mythtv/listing-$$.xml Ah, I was actually using --remove-new-channels which I thought did what it says, it turns out it only works with DataDirect. Reading the --help output for --update it is completely non-obvious that it behaves this way. I'll switch over to it! Thanks! -- Andrew Ruthven Wellington, New Zealand At home: andrew at etc.gen.nz | This space intentionally | left blank. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://lists.ourshack.com/pipermail/mythtvnz/attachments/20070929/68d28690/attachment.pgp From daniel.williams at orcon.net.nz Sun Sep 30 06:12:25 2007 From: daniel.williams at orcon.net.nz (Daniel Williams) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 17:12:25 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] Hauppauge HVR4000 - Sat + Analog working. Message-ID: <46FF3039.5010606@orcon.net.nz> Hi Everyone, Just thought I would fill you in on my success on getting my HVR4000 working with both satellite, and analog at the same time. There appears to be a bug in the drivers, so it doesn't initialise quite right. The Sat side of the world works, but the analog wouldn't. To fix I run the following commands rmmod cx88-dvb rmmod cx88-alsa cx8800 cx8802 sleep 5; modprobe cx88-dvb; sleep 2; modprobe cx8800 modprobe cx88-alsa sleep 2 After that, both the Sat and the Analog will both tune. I've added to my mythbackend startup script to ensure it runs before myth starts. General Comments: Card co-exists fine with a Skystar 2, and a SAA7134 based card (software capture). Having the system capture 4 channels at once (2 HW mpeg, 2 Software Mpeg4) leaves about 15% CPU idle on an AMD Sempron 3300+. So far haven't noticed a difference in quality between the Skystar 2, and the HVR4000, but have noticed that the HVR4000 seems to tune a fraction faster. One small downside, the HVR4000 doesn't report the SNR (Does report the Signal strength though), but no big deal for me. Will update the list when DVB-T starts broadcasting in Christchurch if I get the DVB-T working. Tech Details: Fedore Core 4 - 2.6.16-1.2115_FC4 (yep it's old - but as I had an uptime of > 250 days before adding the HVR4000, I don't feel the need to update) I used the following updated drivers: http://linuxtv.org/hg/~stoth/hvr4000/rev/ce31158b75ae Purely downloaded the tarball, extracted, compiled (make), installed (make install). Grabbed the firmware needed from the driver according to the instructions (in linux/driver/media/dvb/frontends/cx24116.c) wget ftp://167.206.143.11/outgoing/Oxford/88x_2_117_24275_1_INF.zip unzip and then dd if=hcw88bda.sys of=dvb-fe-cx24116.fw skip=81768 bs=1 count=32522 and place the generated file dvb-fe-cx24116.fw into /lib/firmware ( /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware/ on other distros) Rebooted the system. Sat works.. perform the rmmod/modprobes detailed above Both Sat and Analogue works. 8-) Hope this helps those that already have a HVR4000 Daniel From steven at openmedia.co.nz Sun Sep 30 07:21:50 2007 From: steven at openmedia.co.nz (Steven Ellis) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 19:21:50 +1300 Subject: [mythtvnz] Hauppauge HVR4000 - Sat + Analog working. In-Reply-To: <46FF3039.5010606@orcon.net.nz> References: <46FF3039.5010606@orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: <46FF407E.4040308@openmedia.co.nz> Daniel Williams wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > Just thought I would fill you in on my success on getting my HVR4000 > working with both satellite, and analog at the same time. > > There appears to be a bug in the drivers, so it doesn't initialise quite > right. The Sat side of the world works, but the analog wouldn't. > To fix I run the following commands > rmmod cx88-dvb > rmmod cx88-alsa cx8800 cx8802 > sleep 5; > modprobe cx88-dvb; > sleep 2; > modprobe cx8800 > modprobe cx88-alsa > sleep 2 > > After that, both the Sat and the Analog will both tune. I've added to > my mythbackend startup script to ensure it runs before myth starts. > > General Comments: > Card co-exists fine with a Skystar 2, and a SAA7134 based card (software > capture). > Having the system capture 4 channels at once (2 HW mpeg, 2 Software > Mpeg4) leaves about 15% CPU idle on an AMD Sempron 3300+. > Hmmm. So the Analogue side of the HVR4000 doesn't have an MPEG-2 encoder then? Damn.. That is a real pain. If we are going to deal with HD H264 720p playback of DTT we need a HW analogue card for Sky/UHF or there isn't much grunt left. Steve -- Steven Ellis - Technical Director OpenMedia Limited email - steven at openmedia.co.nz sales - sales at openmedia.co.nz support - support at openmedia.co.nz website - http://www.openmedia.co.nz From g8ecj at gilks.org Sun Sep 30 09:25:20 2007 From: g8ecj at gilks.org (Robin Gilks) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 21:25:20 +1300 (NZDT) Subject: [mythtvnz] Have I dropped off the list? Message-ID: <49214.192.168.1.15.1191140720.squirrel@gilks.ath.cx> I just realised that the list wasn't really quiet when I looked on the gossamer archive and see that there has been activity beyond the last message I got on the 23rd Sept... Or is Orcon play silly buggers with my email... -- Robin Gilks From zane at uc.net.nz Sun Sep 30 12:30:53 2007 From: zane at uc.net.nz (Zane Gilmore) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 23:30:53 +1200 Subject: [mythtvnz] Listings 1hour out of whack Message-ID: <46FF88ED.6010001@uc.net.nz> Has anybody else had problems with the listings today? I set things to get the Star Trek stuff and ended up with some church thing and another under the wrong name. :-( My myth set up seems to be showing the right time but the listings appear to be wrong. I noted that Steven discussed this a few days ago. Was there any fix or are we completely at the mercy of the TV companies? Fixing it ourselves doesn't seem like a good idea either. Does anyone other than us MythTV people use these listings or is it up to us to give them some metaphorical stick? Cheers, Zane From criggie at criggie.dyndns.org Sun Sep 30 20:08:47 2007 From: criggie at criggie.dyndns.org (Criggie) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 08:08:47 +1300 (NZDT) Subject: [mythtvnz] Listings 1hour out of whack In-Reply-To: <46FF88ED.6010001@uc.net.nz> References: <46FF88ED.6010001@uc.net.nz> Message-ID: <36206.10.28.2.9.1191179327.squirrel@criggie.dyndns.org> Yes - listings.xml.gz on nice has the listings one hour out compared with listings-all.xml.gz I only found this about half an hour before your post, having missed several programs. (anyone got Doctor Who?) Zane Gilmore wrote: > Has anybody else had problems with the listings today? > > I set things to get the Star Trek stuff and ended up with some church > thing and another under the wrong name. :-( > > My myth set up seems to be showing the right time but the listings > appear to be wrong. > > I noted that Steven discussed this a few days ago. > > Was there any fix or are we completely at the mercy of the TV companies? > Fixing it ourselves doesn't seem like a good idea either. > > Does anyone other than us MythTV people use these listings or is it up > to us to give them some metaphorical stick? -- Criggie http://criggie.dyndns.org/ From steven at openmedia.co.nz Sun Sep 30 20:44:13 2007 From: steven at openmedia.co.nz (Steven Ellis) Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 08:44:13 +1300 Subject: [mythtvnz] Listings 1hour out of whack In-Reply-To: <46FF88ED.6010001@uc.net.nz> References: <46FF88ED.6010001@uc.net.nz> Message-ID: <46FFFC8D.3060903@openmedia.co.nz> Zane Gilmore wrote: > Has anybody else had problems with the listings today? > > I set things to get the Star Trek stuff and ended up with some church > thing and another under the wrong name. :-( > > My myth set up seems to be showing the right time but the listings > appear to be wrong. > > I noted that Steven discussed this a few days ago. > > Was there any fix or are we completely at the mercy of the TV companies? > Fixing it ourselves doesn't seem like a good idea either. > > Does anyone other than us MythTV people use these listings or is it up > to us to give them some metaphorical stick? > > Cheers, > Zane > > The listings should be correct, it might be your XMLTV setup is wrong. In the XMLTV settings you can specify a time offset, and chances are you have it set to "None" rather than "Auto". Steve -- Steven Ellis - Technical Director OpenMedia Limited email - steven at openmedia.co.nz sales - sales at openmedia.co.nz support - support at openmedia.co.nz website - http://www.openmedia.co.nz From g8ecj at gilks.org Sun Sep 30 23:00:08 2007 From: g8ecj at gilks.org (Robin Gilks) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 11:00:08 +1300 (NZDT) Subject: [mythtvnz] List (partially) broken? Message-ID: <34609.192.168.1.15.1191189608.squirrel@gilks.ath.cx> Well I can see my last message at http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/mythtvnz/293076 but no echo of it (despite setting that option in Mailman) and the 3 messages since then showing on gossamer but not arrived here :-( I *REALLY* want to sort this as I'm half way through switching over to tv_grab_nz-py and I'm not convinced that its quite right (overnight the status says that mythfilldatabase ran but added nothing, although I'm still showing 7 days of programming). Help!! -- Robin Gilks From mythtvnz at hotblack.co.nz Sun Sep 30 23:44:17 2007 From: mythtvnz at hotblack.co.nz (Wade Maxfield) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 11:44:17 +1300 Subject: [mythtvnz] List (partially) broken? In-Reply-To: <34609.192.168.1.15.1191189608.squirrel@gilks.ath.cx> References: <34609.192.168.1.15.1191189608.squirrel@gilks.ath.cx> Message-ID: >Well I can see my last message at > http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/mythtvnz/293076 >but no echo of it (despite setting that option in Mailman) and the 3 >messages since then showing on gossamer but not arrived here :-( > >I *REALLY* want to sort this as I'm half way through switching over to >tv_grab_nz-py and I'm not convinced that its quite right (overnight the >status says that mythfilldatabase ran but added nothing, although I'm >still showing 7 days of programming). > >Help!! > > >-- >Robin Gilks > You can get the "added nothing" message if you run mythfilldatabase twice, like I used to to get different lineups (1 for sky via s-video, 1 for FTA via coax/tuner). You probably have a similar situation.... - Wade